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DesertWolf
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: If you seek revenge remember to dig two graves Reply with quote

I have been wrestling with some news I received from a good friend of mine.One of his adopted daughters was found naked,covered in bruises,and unconscious.I normally pride myself on being a fairly calm person but this has gone over my threshold of tolerance.To put it simply:I'm extremely pissed off right now.I won't lash out at anyone here as everyone here has treated me very well and you're not the reason for my anger but I just don't know what I would do if I found the person or people responsible for this.If by any chance I somehow do offend or it seems that I sound angry with you guys then allow me to offer my deepest apologies now.I thank all of you for your support but for now I need to start hitting my wooden dummy to cool off a bit.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh.. oh my. That's awful news. I hope you can control yourself if the culprit (or culprits) is found, and that justice is served. I don't want you to go getting yourself into trouble because you're out for revenge, though I can understand the want to do so. I hope she and the rest of your friend's family are all right. I can only imagine how you all must feel.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolf, I cannot begin to describe how much I feel for you at this moment. I too went through a similar experience some time ago, albeit with an adopted sister of sorts, so believe me when I say I know what such knowledge can feel like. I know how hard it can be not to hunt the people responsable down and destroy them, and with our mutual martial arts training, it can only be harder to resist. And God knows I would be behind you 100% if you chose to do so. However, I must urge you, as someone who has gone through something of the same, to control yourself. All that will come of revenge is personal justice and darkness. So please, be there for your friend and his daughter, but don't let your rage consume you. Having said that, bring them in alive if you have to find them.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Confused man... now that is something. I don't know what to say but i do know that Ashton is right. good thinking about the bag. let it out on something... not some one(s). (even though they desirve it Evil or Very Mad )
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats just cold.

People today... bah.

Do you have any evidence on who did it, police investigation, etc?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I'm so sorry to hear that.

The suspect MUST be punish!!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh My Goodness.

That poor girl.

I can't say that I had experience that feeling or know a person close to me happen in that situation, so I can't say much; but what I will say is that I hope your friend's daughter and family will be OK and hopefully seek some help to protect them and find that cold-hearten culprit and bring him to justice.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you guys for everything.To my knowledge the police are doing an investigation and the girl is resting fine in the hospital.I know the shining path of heaven is empty and the dark road to hell is crowded and easy to walk upon,but as Lao-Tzu once said "The journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step."I feel this will be a difficult road ahead but I'm confident enough that I will make it through somehow.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really hope that police will find that creep and justice will be served!!! Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am saddened to hear of this. I wish the girl a speedy recovery. And that everyone gets what they deserve in the end.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is another saying you should remember, Wolf. "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A story that I heard of a real cop in the Netherlands.

A few years ago he had a suspect arrested for raping a child. The father found it out who person it was and knocked the suspect out. The judge gave the father the minimal punishment for this attack a bill of a few euro and let him go because he was emotion unstable at that moment.

But this in the Netherlands. I hope that the person or persons who are responsible for this will get got.

The punishment in the bijbel is good for this persons bound to a stone and send to the deeps off the sea.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

omg....I could imagine what shock the girl must been through...she needs moreal support. do not try to do revenge atm, I have a feeling she needs you more to comfort her.

let the police handle it...if they can;t...well...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone.To keep you guys updated the girl has regained consciousness but is still shaken up from the ordeal.Her tox screens came back negative for both drugs and alcohol and the [word censored] kit was also negative for any sexual assault.This news coupled with everyone's support has been a tremendous relief for everybody here.I can't thank you guys enough for this(this making me all misty eyed).Thank you guys very much.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, for one, am overjoyed at this news, Wolf. I can't even begin to describe.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are here for support, even though it is not a remendation for the site. (but it dose help.) the reson i know is becouse i still have a oredeal going on over here too. they still have not relised her body yet... never mind about me but we are here to help for suport. glad to know that those cam back -. (can't spell well right now.) ... i forgot where i was going with this...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ashton,I can hardly describe the feeling myself.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Drofgod,I know forums aren't meant for remedies but I think that a little support goes a long ways.As far as what you're talking about I understand too.I've lost so many friends and attended many funerals that I can sort of relate to your situation.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's good news. I'm glad she's more or less all right and that she didn't suffer as much as suspected.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is good to hear that the girl does not contains any alcohol/drugs and came out negative with any sexual assault, but it is strange that person didn't do much but gives bruises; I know it is not any of my business, but I couldn't help but to think why he just left her there with just accomplish of giving her bruises on her body.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Tadelesh,we too were very relived from this news.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Lidia,[word censored] is most often an issue of dominance and power rather than hormones and sex drives and for people who don't know basic CPR wouldn't know to check for vital signs on an unconscious person.The theory is that she met a person or people who may have wanted sex from her and she refused,so they beat her continuously until she passed out from the trauma.Since she appeared dead they simply disposed of the body.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh.

Well if that theory is true, then thank heavens he or they didn't take a double check to see if she is really dead.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes,we feel very fortunate that combined with the fact they dropped her off in area that has lots of people travel frequently was what really saved her.There are other theories but I don't want to talk about them right now.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*gently pat him in the back*

There, there. You don't need to tell us those other theories.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lidia_Apricot wrote:
It is good to hear that the girl does not contains any alcohol/drugs and came out negative with any sexual assault, but it is strange that person didn't do much but gives bruises; I know it is not any of my business, but I couldn't help but to think why he just left her there with just accomplish of giving her bruises on her body.


hmmm....it is odd...why would there's no trace of sexual assault at all? it is unlogical..unless...maybe she has a nemesis at school? or something? who want to humilliate her badly...

but agai this is good news
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kiala_Tiagra wrote:
hmmm....it is odd...why would there's no trace of sexual assault at all? it is unlogical..unless...maybe she has a nemesis at school? or something? who want to humilliate her badly...

but agai this is good news

I think DesertWolf already explained why there was no signs of sexual assault in this case, Kiala, which makes sense... if the attackers thought they had beaten her to death, they would have panicked and tried to get rid of her body as quickly as possible. Still, I don't think this is the proper forum for people to forumlate their own "CSI" theories about crimes with which we know little or nothing about.

It's a terrible thing, but perhaps it would be better not to dwell or ponder such things in here. My condolences to DesertWolf and his friends.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My condolences and wishes for a speedy recovery as well... this is a terrible thing and I'm glad it was at least a little better than it might have been. :/
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree, Mr. Tursi.

And a wishes for the young girl recovery and strengths for your friends, Mr. DesertWolf.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank You Guys very much for your support.To give you guys an update the girl will be released from the hospital in a few weeks.

I must also agree with Johnny,I only posted one of many working theories but as of now I won't discuss or post them for good reasons.

1)It interferes with the ongoing investigation.

2)Some of the theories get really graphic and deal with things that would not only upset myself but also others.

3)As Johnny said this is not really the place to dwell on such things.If and when an arrest is made I will let everyone know.

Everyone here truly and deeply appreciates your kind words and we thank you.
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