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Tearlach
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I watched the film House of Wax last night, the original with Vincent Price.
It set my mind working, a rare event in it's self, such places were as common and popular in the late 19th and early 20th centuries as todays theme parks. Yet in a 'furry' the waxworks would need a lot of work, all that fur inplanted by hand or paw. But then would Bon Bon need such a thing with all its other distractions? 
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Well, you would'nt need to implant fur into the wax. Just cut, color and mark it into the likeness of fur.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: |
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| Ashton Gray wrote: | | Well, you would'nt need to implant fur into the wax. Just cut, color and mark it into the likeness of fur. |
That would work, though not very life like I would assume. It would depend on the skill of the sculptor. It would make an interesting plot, a stranger opens a wax museum and one of the exhibits bears a striking resemblance to the Queen of Bon Bon..
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Well, since wax dolls don't look very lifelike in the first place, I don't think you'll have that to worry about. Besides, with a skill as great as the much loved and respected Vanessa Santato, I have absolutely no doubt you'll have to worry about your wax creations looking lifelike. That is, assuming you are planning to make that your profession in Bon Bon.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:49 am Post subject: |
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it is not my intention to be an entertainer, I have stated my intentions in the Fursona forum. I mearly wished to to point out such an event would be in keeping with the time line and perhaps inject an plot device.
I did not mean to offend any one and I apologize unreservedly to any and all who did.
I will close this topic and no longer post on the subject.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:13 am Post subject: |
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Offended? I fail to see any offense here.
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Why?
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Kinda makes you wonder just how a taxidermist would be able to make a living in a "furry" world.
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It's not like embalming, where you're making the body look nice so the family can have a nice send off. It'd be like having Wacky Uncle Phil stuffed and mounted and keeping him in the corner to impress house-guests. While I can see it working out fairly well in a sitcom, in reality it'd be a little creepy. Like Psycho but without being able to blame it on being crazy.
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Ah ha, something interesting to discuss. An uncommon sight amongst the banter of our hobo pair who like to interrupt a discussion.
Perhaps the taxidermist replaces the mortician in that aspect. Embalming and making them look real and at peace. It would make for a great furry horror movie. *Chuckles a bit*
Symphony, I don't think family friendly is too high on the list of a city bordering on the likes of Babylon. Though, the market square images from the 4th comic didn't have that much gratuitousness sex and nudity. Perhaps there's a family friendly oriented half of the town.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:02 am Post subject: |
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| Xebulon wrote: | | It's not like embalming, where you're making the body look nice so the family can have a nice send off. It'd be like having Wacky Uncle Phil stuffed and mounted and keeping him in the corner to impress house-guests. While I can see it working out fairly well in a sitcom, in reality it'd be a little creepy. Like Psycho but without being able to blame it on being crazy. |
I am usually I male of my word and I did state that I would not post on this topic again. However it does seem to have stirred up enterest among the forum. There are precedents in the human world for human taxidermy.
Recent archaeological finds in Britain show that some bronze age villages
had a human body buried under the floor of the huts, off to one side.
The most advanced theory being that it was a form of ancestor worship, with the belief that the spirit of the deceased acted as a guardian for the hut and its occupants. More modern examples are Lenin and the German artist ( his nameescapes me for the moment) who has cadavers 'left' to
him in the deceast's will and after disecting and skining them, poses them calling it art.  [url][/url]
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| Mystic wrote: | | Perhaps the taxidermist replaces the mortician in that aspect. Embalming and making them look real and at peace. |
I don't know. I think the difference between the two in this case is more subtle. While the practice for both would be similar (embalm, clean, dress, style and make up the corpse) the intended purpose is not. A taxidermist's work is meant to be seen many times, to be appriciated for it's life-like semblance and quality. It's done for the audience, not the subject. While a mortician's work would (or at least should) be of equal skill and presentation I've always felt that it was more for the sake of the dignity of the deceased, so that the last time their family and friends see them they at least look their best. I mean, a taxidermist, not unlike a sculptor, can create the same time as many times as is wanted or needed. But for a mortician each subject is unique and special, a singular work of art that is displayed once then laid to rest, never to be copied.
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| Tearlach wrote: | | Recent archaeological finds in Britain show that some bronze age villages had a human body buried under the floor of the huts, off to one side. The most advanced theory being that it was a form of ancestor worship, with the belief that the spirit of the deceased acted as a guardian for the hut and its occupants. |
I think that's a different ball of wax all together. That sounds more like a ceremonial burial designed, as you said, to ensure that the ancestor's spirit sticks around to keep an eye on things. I wouldn't call that taxidermy though since I highly doubt that they'd have risked digging up the bodies and pissing off their ancestor's spirits just to show them off to friends.
| Tearlach wrote: | | More modern examples are Lenin and the German artist ( his nameescapes me for the moment) who has cadavers 'left' to him in the deceast's will and after disecting and skining them, poses them calling it art. [url][/url] |
And that makes my gorge rise. I'll speak no more on that particular subject.
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| Xebulon wrote: | | I think that's a different ball of wax all together. |
Oh har-dee-har-HAR! Very funny, Xebulon.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:48 am Post subject: |
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Oh, for crying out... that wasn't meant to be a joke. 
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Wasn't there a former member of the British Parliament who had himself stuffed after death? I heard he asked that he be placed in a display box of some kind.
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| kommy wrote: | | Wasn't there a former member of the British Parliament who had himself stuffed after death? I heard he asked that he be placed in a display box of some kind. |
I believe my Lady you are refering to Jeremy Bentham (1748-1832).
Philosopher and co-founder of University College in London, England.
At his request, after his death his body was dissected and then mummified.Though the head is made of wax, the original being too far into decomposition for preservation.  The head however is still kept elsewhere in the college.
The body was then dressed, complete with hat, coat, white gloves and walking stick. The latter two items it is said he was never seen without. An interesting side note is that contemporaries stated that he treated the walking stick "like a pet" even going as far as naming it 'Dapple' 
The remains were seated on a large chair and placed in a glass case and located in the main entrance hall in order to "greet" visitors to the college.
After a decade or so the display was move to a more discreet location. However there are stories that tell of the the body rising up from the chair and walking down the corridor where it is located and wandering in to the library, the cane making a distinctive tapping sound with every step. 
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Seems we have another history buff to add to the collection to help inform the rest of us of things unknown.
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I'm surprised that nobody has remembered that there are animals in Bon Bon, not just the anthro animals. Therefore, a taxidermist would be for animals, not for the "human"s (main characters), and the waxworks, if done, would be more like waxworks of humans. I remember, because I asked about it before; I believe due to the subject of eating meat cropping up.
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