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Ashton Gray Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: A Realization ( Royal Members avatars style) |
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I noticed a new Avatar has been submitted and when I saw his occupation, I realized something. We seem to have been getting a great influx, with the more recent Avatar admissions, of a rougher variant of newcomer. Mercenaries and fighters of all sorts. Does this strike anyone else as strange for such a town as Bon Bon or is it just me? _________________ Silentium est aurum |
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Shadow9808 Royal Member of BonBon
Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 610
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, I'm here because of my history! I made a vow to her I'd... ::grows quite suddenly:: I'm sorry. I shouldn't be making outbursts. Let's just say I owe it to someone in my past.
(Expect answers to my coment as Leon to follow in later chapters of Path of Darkness, Ashton.) _________________ Path of Darkness Chapter 12 is up! Read it here: http://forums.pleasurebonbon.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5240 |
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Tsavo Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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I'm far from getting an avatar, but I guess I'd fall in with the rougher types.
When I came up with the idea I somehow went straight to thinking about a haunted soul coming to Bon Bon for sanctuary.
Not that you can really run from yourself, but that is something for another story.
Hopefully part 3 of my story will be up early next week. _________________ Owner of the Lion's Den Pub.
Tsavo's story:
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Lord Nelson Royal Member of BonBon
Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Posts: 145
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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It does indeed strike me as a bit queer. I would say, however, that Bon Bon would likely not bat an eye at the matter. A certain amount of vigour is always welcome, methinks. |
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Marauder Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Not at all. I'd think a place like Bon Bon would be perfect for someone who wanted to retire from the rough-and-tumble life, or even just getting away from it all for a while. _________________ I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy. |
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Ashton Gray Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining in the least, I'm simply commenting on the fact itself and how it strikes me as a little odd. I too doubt that Bon Bon would bat an eye at this development and it does seem like the kind of town that would seem perfect for a respite from the "rough-and-tumble" life, no matter for how long. Nevertheless, it still strikes me as odd that we would be receiving such an influx of so many "rough-and-tumble" types. _________________ Silentium est aurum
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Martin Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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I'm afraid that it's a "culture phase"...
People nowadays tend to look for the "Hella tuff, lived in hell" concept.
In the past one would have gone for the Sam Spade version (MoF, I think one has), earlier ones would have gone for the Doc Savage (open shirt, tall, muscular and dignified adventurer), and people from earlier would have gone for "british gentlemen" like Phileas Fogg. I think you get my drift... |
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Crimson Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:02 am Post subject: |
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to tell yo the truth i was thinking over revamping my avatar cuz of that fact. _________________ Crimson's Construction.
Bettering Bon Bon one building at a time. |
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Ashton Gray Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Martin wrote: | I'm afraid that it's a "culture phase"... |
I did'nt want to say it because I was'nt sure how to best phrase it but I had a strong suspicion that had something to do with it. _________________ Silentium est aurum |
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Tsavo Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:15 am Post subject: |
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Always preferred Marlowe to Spade, Phil seemed more caring an human.
I partially blame my character choices on Barnes and Nobles selling me a massive Conrad book for 8 bucks. Damn that Heart of Darkness. _________________ Owner of the Lion's Den Pub.
Tsavo's story:
Somewhere to Help You Sleep |
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Vanessa Official Artist
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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It's no secret that I prefer drawing avatars that are in syntony with the universe of PBB, meaning characters suitable for the time and style of the story. After all PBB is a love story, not a fantasy or a violent comic.
But my duty is to fulfil the requests of all the readers and make them happy. Sadly it's harder for someone who doesn't fit well in the story to appear in a cameo. That's because in PBB there's no need for mercenaries, fighters, heroes... there's only a rather hidden and discreet security, in order to guarrantee the privacy of the guests. Bon Bon is mainly a tourist-friendly area, neutral in regards to any war, not to mention a sort of tax haven, in Europe, between Austria and Northern Italy. All the Royal Members that define themselves warriors, mercenaries and the like can't just waltz into the DC in full battle gear. Therefore I can safely make you participate to nude scenes, but within the casino and in social events you must dress in a suitable way.
Remember that, if someday PBB will be printed, not all the readers will know about the matter of the Royal Members, and maybe they'll find weird to see characters that don't fit in the story without an explanation. The comic must always be coherent; nonetheless the Avatars will always be drawn the way you prefer because I love giving you what you want, but only the ones dressed in tuxedos, Civilian outfits, uniforms of the time or the like will appear dressed within the comic. For the others I'll draw the cameos and pin-ups only either as nudes or reworking the clothes, otherwise I risk going off course and confusing the readers. _________________
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Ashton Gray Royal Member of BonBon
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 4668
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Your devotion to your story and your readers is admirable, Ms. Santato, and wholly appreciated, but I very much doubt anyone will disagree with me when I say that preserving your story, YOUR story, and it's design is more important than fulfilling any requests of ours, especially if they clash with your designs. It's your work and you should have full control over it. It's somewhat astounding you take the time and expend the energy to listen to us and do your best to incorperate us into your story in the first place, in my opinion. I can't help but wonder if someday you'll refuse to incorperate any more outside wishes into your work, simply for the sake of your design for the story and art, or someone will come along with an idea that is so unfitting that you will actually have to refuse it. Or maybe you'll just become fed up with drawing things that do not fully comply with Bon Bon. Who knows? I personally hope that day will never come but I would understand if it did entirely. _________________ Silentium est aurum |
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Foxonian Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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While I think that the BonBon Universe can have all kinds in it,I do agree with Vanessa's reasons about who can or can't appear in the comic(hoping that I will someday,btw!) |
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Shadow9808 Royal Member of BonBon
Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 610
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Leon may come from a bad history, but he has sought out Bon Bon as a means to find some peace in his life. As some may agree, a man can only take so much chaos before he MUST withdraw and recenter himself in tranquility. I doubt he'll ever really carry around anything dangerous in a peaceful place like this.
(EDIT!) Granted, it would be funny to see Leon trying to shop for some more cival clothes. He always did have terrible fasion taste...
But as everyone has said, Miss Santano, please don't mind my wants too much. Your story has a tempo that I'd feel bad to disrupt. _________________ Path of Darkness Chapter 12 is up! Read it here: http://forums.pleasurebonbon.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5240
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UltimaWolf0 Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Huh that's a quite an interesting development. I just admire how our fair Vanessa sticks to her way and won't let outside forces influence things. |
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LabrnMystic Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Well, your all forgetting, Mercenaries need love too.
Theres a wide variety of avatars flooding in. However, I had thought you needed to be here 6 months to get an avatar, right?
I thought there were two levels:
1) Loyal Member - Your given admittance to the barred areas of the site, such as the latest comics and other portions, like the X-ray gallery.
2) Royal Member - Your given the chance for an avatar and either a cameo or pin up.
If anything, for those who don't fit well with the story, such as mercenaries and what not, they could be given a pin-up. _________________ The suspense is killing me. I hope it will last. |
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Ashton Gray Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Hm, that brings to mind another condition I seem to recall noticing for qualifying to recieve a custom avatar. Regular posting here. Does this sound familiar to anyone else or is my mind trying to trick me again? _________________ Silentium est aurum |
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Vanessa Official Artist
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:16 am Post subject: |
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Ashton Gray wrote: | Hm, that brings to mind another condition I seem to recall noticing for qualifying to recieve a custom avatar. Regular posting here. Does this sound familiar to anyone else or is my mind trying to trick me again? |
you are right Ashton.
And thanks to everyone for understand me _________________
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Shadow9808 Royal Member of BonBon
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MrWolf12 Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:57 am Post subject: |
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I have to agree with Labrn. After such a hard life of battle and fighting, BonBon would be a very nice place to relax and unwind for mercs and soldiers. As long as they leave that violent life behind. |
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Ashton Gray Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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Vanessa wrote: | you are right Ashton. |
I thought so. Thank you for confirming, Vanessa. But if that's the case, then it would seem several people have come out of the woodwork, so to speak, posting their fursona descriptions as their first ever post. That does'nt seem very fair to you, Ms. Santato, at least. Now, granted, this great place was going long before I came around so for all I know, these people could have been participating in conversations long before I came here then went quiet. But if not, and their fursona description is indeed their first post, then that does'nt seem right, at least not to me. _________________ Silentium est aurum |
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Shadow9808 Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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Ashton Gray wrote: | But if not, and their fursona description is indeed their first post, then that does'nt seem right, at least not to me. |
I'm sideing with you on this one, Ashton. At the very least people should do like I did and first greet everyone and tell just a little about themselves. _________________ Path of Darkness Chapter 12 is up! Read it here: http://forums.pleasurebonbon.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5240 |
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Ashton Gray Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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That would be polite, yes, and would seem proper, but I was hinting more towards not just a few posts before your fursona description but a good deal more and regular posting even after posting your fursona description, such as you have done. It does'nt seem to warrant the effort put into it by our lovely hostess otherwise. While your avatar may appear in the story as a part or simply a cameo or just in a pin-up, I find myself thinking the avatar is more meant to be used here instead of in Ms. Santato's story. And if that's the case, then just posting your description and disappearing after that does'nt seem right. _________________ Silentium est aurum |
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Shadow9808 Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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I asure you right now, I won't be vanishing without first telling why, like Mr.Wolf did about visited his uncle. You guys deserive that from me too. After all, I think I've made some fast friends to talk to. _________________ Path of Darkness Chapter 12 is up! Read it here: http://forums.pleasurebonbon.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5240 |
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Ashton Gray Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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That's very good to hear, Shadow, but that still leaves several others. _________________ Silentium est aurum |
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Xebulon Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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As usual, I show up late and miss the fun. Still, I agree with Labrn and Ashton in regards to Ms. Santato and the comic as a whole. _________________ I like old jokes. With them I know when to laugh. |
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Crimson Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:45 am Post subject: |
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I sorry for not showing up as mush as I would like, full time work and full time school can drain one's time. But I do agree with you Ashton and I like to think I have made friends here aswell. _________________ Crimson's Construction.
Bettering Bon Bon one building at a time. |
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Ashton Gray Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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Methinks it's a safe bet, Crimson. _________________ Silentium est aurum |
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Crimson Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Thank You. Im honored _________________ Crimson's Construction.
Bettering Bon Bon one building at a time. |
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LabrnMystic Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Ashton Gray wrote: | I thought so. Thank you for confirming, Vanessa. But if that's the case, then it would seem several people have come out of the woodwork, so to speak, posting their fursona descriptions as their first ever post. That does'nt seem very fair to you, Ms. Santato, at least. Now, granted, this great place was going long before I came around so for all I know, these people could have been participating in conversations long before I came here then went quiet. But if not, and their fursona description is indeed their first post, then that does'nt seem right, at least not to me. |
Well, besides the number of posts below their avatar, there is also the search option to find their posts. However, Though you may have started late Ashton, it was around the time I'd say that you, myself, the trio with Violet, Kommy, and Drake and a few lesser known names that we truly turned this more into a community.
However, there could be those who stay out of the BonBon chat and only stick to the general or joke areas.
Either way, I'd suggest a sticky or a post at the top of each "Avatar request" thread, stating the conditions to receive one. Otherwise, your gonna end up with a pile of members who are mostly just wanting a commission from you Vanessa, and not actually wishing to stay and participate with the site. _________________ The suspense is killing me. I hope it will last. |
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