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Carrie-Phox
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 Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:51 am Post subject: :: Something that bothers me a lot... |
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There's something I have to take of my chest,
this is for Vanessa, Martin and Ronald.
You all know the "lovely dearest" Crystal-For-Ever. Hmm, the one who slimes up to to get some free art of course?
Well, before you all go like: why is she making fun out of Crystal, it's because Crystal is the leak in PBB. Who saved the artworks and send it through a lot of people.
Work Vanessa worked so hard on, she saved it and send ZIP + RAR files too.
How do I know, when I saw the fanart she made of Mary Blue, I got crazy about PBB. Because I love Vanessa's work. And I asked To see some downloads from Crystal. I got interested, contacted Vanessa. And here I am.
(Trying) to help PBB with arts.
but I felt so guilty when I saw Ronald's post on the fact that there people distributing the images.
Once Crystal's membership expired she asked me dozens of time to send the new page. I refused because I 'Lied' to her that I didn't visit PBB.
Later she asked VIA me to Vanessa to draw artwork to gain free membership, I refused as well.
She badly wanted to become a Royal Member so she would get free art of Vanessa.
Of course, that's what she does, suck up to people and eventually after she has what she wants she'll dump you.
But this had to come out of my chest. I talked with Herisheft about it.
I can not stop feeling guilty about this entire thing, I think you all have the right to know, what a manipulating liar she is...
I'm sorry if I upset anyone...
- Pahe
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Herisheft
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:01 am Post subject: |
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I say that people desrve to know it... they deserve to know even more but i am afraid that i would break my fingers on keyboard if I was trying to describe everything, it wouldn't hurt to break her neck too in addition to how badly she treated you hun *hug* You and many other people
my skin itches each time when people fall for her lies
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Foxonian
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| I know that I was starting to see some of PBB's "membership only" art appear on some of the "Chan" free image boards now and again.Always wondered who amoung us was sending it out freely(in clear violation of the rules,I might add).Guess I know now who it was. |
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Ashton Gray
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Seems to be a classic case of "A wolf in sheep's clothing." Hmm, considering what I am, I may have to consider rephrasing... In any case, thank you both for telling us all this. It was very good of you.
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UltimaWolf0
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Well I guess that solves that. It's good that you came out and told us. |
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Xebulon
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Ms. Phox, I thank you for bringing this information to light. It does not sound like this has been easy for you and I admire your courage to tell us and resist such duplicity. I know that digital consolation isn't much but the hugs are there for you if you want them.
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Vanessa
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:44 am Post subject: |
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These news sadden me particularly in respect to the other notices of piracy, for various reasons.
First, because the person that did this first showed up in the MB in full light as a friendly person and all of us welcomed her, we complimented her and some of us commissioned some works to her after meeting her on PBB, I would have expected that more from a lurker. Then because she's an artist and should be able to respect the hard work of who draws, as she does, in a particular way.
Moreover it isn't nice for her to ask Heri or Karine an account, it's me and firstly Ronald to decide if and to whom to offer an account, therefore she should have asked me or him and not disturb the other members. In Bon Bon there's the privacy law and the guests must not be bothered. Ronald will decide if measures should be taken about a future request of accounts from her.
Thank you, Karine, and I hope you're well now. If your offer of collaboration is still valid I'll send you some pin ups to be colored, so we'll do some new material that only the members will be able to enjoy!
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Herisheft
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| Vanessa wrote: |
Moreover it isn't nice for her to ask Heri or Karine an account |
She only asked Karine for that ^^;
she perfectlly knows that if she tries to talk to me i turn her ass into autumn of medieval 
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Carrie-Phox
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| Vanessa wrote: | These news sadden me particularly in respect to the other notices of piracy, for various reasons.
First, because the person that did this first showed up in the MB in full light as a friendly person and all of us welcomed her, we complimented her and some of us commissioned some works to her after meeting her on PBB, I would have expected that more from a lurker. Then because she's an artist and should be able to respect the hard work of who draws, as she does, in a particular way.
Moreover it isn't nice for her to ask Heri or Karine an account, it's me and firstly Ronald to decide if and to whom to offer an account, therefore she should have asked me or him and not disturb the other members. In Bon Bon there's the privacy law and the guests must not be bothered. Ronald will decide if measures should be taken about a future request of accounts from her.
Thank you, Karine, and I hope you're well now. If your offer of collaboration is still valid I'll send you some pin ups to be colored, so we'll do some new material that only the members will be able to enjoy! |
Thanks Vanessa for understanding... T_T I really still feel horrible about this entire thing. I just can not quit feeling guilty. And I wish I could do more then just warn. I wish I could take an act and stand up for you guys and myself. But I'm afraid she blocked me after boyfriend told me what a girl I am. He told me I'm a girl sitting very high up on her horse, thinks that the world revolves around her and
-> 
After that they both blocked me. While I didn't said anything wrong :/
I only asked her to pay for the commission money she owes me, but she begs in meantime for money to others for her Second Life.com account.
Later she says she was begging for that money for helping me out. *shakes head* The one lie after the other.
So please whatever she says, don't believe her. All she does is lying. When she got the art/money she wants out of you, she'll dump you faster then the wind can blow.
I've been there..
Thank you all for your support and I hope you guys wont make the mistake I have made by trusting this person for 5 years...
I knew longer then today she was this lying manipulator.
But I gave her all the time a new chance. Now a week ago she has chosen between me and a guy (who sent me that note *points above*) she barely knows for 5 months.
To Vanessa extra, yes send the works to my Gmail.com mail, I'm waiting with thrill to work on your art, slowly I'm getting back into art, but very .... very slow.
I did a few sketches for Labryn that are in Victorian time, would you like me to send those too?
I hope everyone stays strong...
I'm sorry once more if I hurt anyone, and I deeply give anyone my best regards for this...
- Pahe
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Vanessa
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:07 am Post subject: |
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Ok dear, I understand.
Now just relax you, ok?
And yes, upload here or in DA gallery , or send me the new sketches, I am always happy to see your new works. Take care.
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Ashton Gray
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Charming word usage, the man who sent you that message. I agree with Vanessa: Just relax. Further, put those two out of your mind. In effect, forget about them. In my perspective, it's their loss, and it should'nt be worried over by you.
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UltimaWolf0
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| Not to stir up more drama...but I guess some of the things written about her in her ED page are true. Especially the money related parts. But as they said just calm down a bit, it'll be alright. |
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| Heri sent me a message in FA about Crystal. And that time, I stopped watching her. Kinda sad... |
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Carrie-Phox
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:21 am Post subject: |
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Don't worry; i will calm down, hopefully.
The doc said I should >_<
Lost 9 KG in total already, but that's because I have too XD
but the stress, oh man... *yawns*
Just I feel bad right now, because I had to make the step, but( I don't like seeing anyone hurt because of me t-t
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BrightAngelChii
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Well, as I have seen there are currently many entrys at the world wide web about all the bad things she made and how much she changed. She sure will see the results for doing all the bad things she did faster then the maybe thought of.
They will follow her sure her whole life. |
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Ashton Gray
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Karma, what an invention. 
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~Taking Carrie into the heart of the wondrous garden that stands hidden within the great sea of trees. Colors of so many shades and hues sparkle in her wide eyes. Before a stand of bushes, he plucks a large deep crimson rose. Brushing away thorns from its stem, he graciously hands it to Carrie.~
May this brighten your heart and eyes. |
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LabrnMystic
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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*sighs* Yes, too bad most of your warnings got to me after the commissions. XD
*shrugs* Thats alright. Its history now. Hopefully we can keep our guard up and keep this sort of thing happening. Hopefully we'll be able to keep honest and trusting members here at BonBon.
I'm sorry you had to take such a blow like this Vanessa, and Carrie, try to keep your head up. I'll try and chat with you to put a smile on your face when I can. ^_^
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Ashton Gray
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| Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:24 am Post subject: |
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And when he is'nt around, I'll gladly fill in.
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| And if I am aorund,I will also! ^.^ |
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Hey, if it makes you feel even a little better, Carrie (And I've watch your Furaffinity account for a while now, your art ROCKS!!!), if I ever see these people that hurt you in a dark alley way, I'll wait for them to turn their back. At least I'll be walking out into the light. Don't know where they will have vanished to, however... 
It's almost like that bit in the flash movie on Newgrounds "Smash Kingdom" (Watch it folks, it's funny as Hell!), where King Dedede tells Ness and Lucas the best way to deal with a bully is to "wait for him to turn his back to you, and then beat his head in with a hammer!" Anyone that hurts others for their own gain, in my book, forfits all rights to being treated as a human.
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Carrie-Phox
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| Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:13 am Post subject: |
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Thank you everyone for those sweet comments... T_T
I just wish she would finally get a lesson >_>
She's unbanned now on dA >_>
Vanessa the movie was very funny XD But have you ever seen Achmed the dead terorist? XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go
BTW did you got my mail?
I'm waiting for your lineart to color them in :3
I'd be happy to do back work for you XD... (wish she would get out of that darn artblock >_< )
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Ashton Gray
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| Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:19 am Post subject: |
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| Shadow9808 wrote: | | Hey, if it makes you feel even a little better, Carrie (And I've watch your Furaffinity account for a while now, your art ROCKS!!!), if I ever see these people that hurt you in a dark alley way, I'll wait for them to turn their back. At least I'll be walking out into the light. Don't know where they will have vanished to, however... |
Take a number and get it line.
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Jeff Dunham is a very funny man. Err, men.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Such info that I've read on this thread are just pretty awful.
Such a shame for somebody to stoop so low.
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Ashton Gray
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| Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:37 am Post subject: |
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A shame indeed but there it is. And, let us not forget, not that it helps much, that without these low individuals, we would neither know the opposite nor would we have examples of how not to act.
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Carrie-Phox
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| Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:51 am Post subject: |
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It's best ronald, vanessa and Martin know that these things are going on behind there back T_T
I think it's so awful that people take such advantage T___T
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I prefer Peanut.
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