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Ashton Gray
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I agree but the only downside to the page by page read is the sometimes maddening and agonizing wait for the next page to be completed.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Ashton Gray wrote: | | I agree but the only downside to the page by page read is the sometimes maddening and agonizing wait for the next page to be completed. |
Also true! 
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| Vanessa wrote: | For now yes Ashton, for now...  |
And the plot gets bigger. Ha Hah! Bigger.
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Here's some food for thought. What do you think Bon Bon would be like if it survived to the present day? Would it rival, or even out match, Las Vegas (and other such similar cities)? Would the diamond mine have dried up? How would things like the internet affect the "street corner shopping"? Would the Delight Castle still stand, or would it have gone under?
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| I think that if BonBon survived to the present day,it would be modern in terms of costuming and techology,but the spirit of the town and the Delight Castle would remain unchanged. |
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YoungCesar
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I also think that the spirit of the town and the Delight Castle will remain the same.I doubt that it would outmtach Las Vegas,afterall the town has to remain hidden,if Bon Bon is to survive.About the internet-i doubt it will effect much anything.
But the problem is i cant stop imagining the girls in mini skirts and one of those T-shirts,that say"Look,but dont touch"
My head is spinning! 
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Ashton Gray
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| YoungCesar wrote: | | No,you're right,it was before you arrived duo.And if i remember,there was supossed to be a thread-theories about Bon Bon,where this and more was disscused.But i kinda lost track of it. |
Is this the thread you were thinking of, Cesar?
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Hah,yes exactly.
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| well i have to congratulate the artist/writer on creating a comic that can inspire such discussion and yet with all this talk know one can say for certain what will happen next. |
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Now that it has been revealed that there is a secret cabal behind the governing of Bon Bon, and that Simon Blue has ties to it/them, one has to wonder. Just how powerful is Mr. Blue within this organization, and given his avid dislike of Betty and her business, is he plotting to use his influence against her?
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Ashton Gray
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Methinks you meant to say "Betty and her buisness", not Mary. Mary is his daughter, remember?
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| Ashton Gray wrote: | | Methinks you meant to say "Betty and her buisness", not Mary. Mary is his daughter, remember? |
Right, missed that. ... ... ... Ok, sorted. Thanks Ashton.
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My pleasure.
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A new batch of queries for you all to ponder.
In a furry setting such as Bon Bon, where predator and prey species mingle on a daily basis, one would imagine that dining might sometimes be a touchy ordeal. I cannot help but wonder just how Bon Bon society in general deals with the need of many of it's residents for meat in their diet. Of course, it would be horribly impolite to just walk and eat someone off the street, so where does the meat come from? Are there non bipedal/sentient animals, such as cows for example, that provide said sustenance? If so, how do the "anthro" inhabitants feel about someone, especially someone they know or to whom they are close, consuming their genetic cousins? Is there a special classification of crime for a predator who not only kills someone but eats them as well? And what kind of punitive measures would be taken against them?
These questions are brought to you today courtesy of "Penguin" brand caffeinated peppermints. I'm on my third tin today. 
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I have thought on this, since my character would be hunting for food in the forests, and I see him eating anything from deer to squirrel, both of which have anthro counterparts in the nearby BonBon. Perhaps the poeple of this world see their 'lesser' genetic cousins the way most humans view the apes. Related yes, but not viewed as the same. Many human cultures see apes as close to human, for example the word 'Orangoutang' which means 'Old MAN of the Woods', yet they have still been hunted if needed for food.
So, I think the more carnivorous folk of BonBon wouldn't have much of a problem when eating in public. I just don't think you'll be seeing much whole suckling pig or the like rolling on a spit. That might still be a bit unsettling for the more vegetarian minded. XD |
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Not to mention that if you eat steak when dining with a business partner that happens to be a huge longhorn bull, he's probably gonna stand up, end the business and pop you one in the face. And longhorns are quite on the brawny side
I'd suggest the chicken... given that it's bird meat, it wouldn't be fowl play
That, or go for the fish. Countless platypuses, seals and walruses can't all be wrong |
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Just where does all that meat come from I wonder...  |
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MAn, if Red is William's brother... XD I will flip over from laughter XD
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| Xebulon,that is a very deep thought.I think one would have to just think of all anthro furry residents of BonBon as "people" and other animals as "animals".That might be a help. |
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I don't if I will laugh on this point. But if William IS Red brother, that would mean big disaster not only in Bon Bon but in the Claw of the Talon as well. And that means trouble.
Well....we may have to wait. |
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| Xebulon wrote: | A new batch of queries for you all to ponder.
In a furry setting such as Bon Bon, where predator and prey species mingle on a daily basis, one would imagine that dining might sometimes be a touchy ordeal. I cannot help but wonder just how Bon Bon society in general deals with the need of many of it's residents for meat in their diet. Of course, it would be horribly impolite to just walk and eat someone off the street, so where does the meat come from? Are there non bipedal/sentient animals, such as cows for example, that provide said sustenance? If so, how do the "anthro" inhabitants feel about someone, especially someone they know or to whom they are close, consuming their genetic cousins? Is there a special classification of crime for a predator who not only kills someone but eats them as well? And what kind of punitive measures would be taken against them?
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Actually, I was thinking about that when I was writing the next couple of chapters for my BonBon spin-off story, and I actually have a character who's a anthropomorphic bull who's a "cowboy" (pun definitely intended), and he doesn't seem to have any trouble with the fact that he raises and herds his four-legged cousins to be made into steaks and leather. He basically feels that they're just "dumb critters", which is ironic considering his own bone-headed mannerisms. As far as he's concerned, he's a higher being than they are, and likely doesn't care much what an egg-head like Charles Darwin would say about him being related to a bunch of dumb cows, no matter how much he may look like one. I figured many folks in the furry world of Bon Bon simply don't worry about such paradoxes as many just see non-anthropomorphic animals the same way as Victorian-era people saw animals in there own time. The few who would find such things troubling would be the folks who probably read Darwin's works.
Even some of my Native American characters don't see much trouble in hunting deer or buffalo when members of their own tribes or clans may be of the same species, just in two-legged form. The difference is that they're more aware of a deep connection with all living things, and that having a similar appearance to a wild creature with four legs instead of two is seen as simply the Creator's reminder that all things are related and tied together, thus they make sure to pay their proper respects to the creatures who give up their lives that they may live. At least, that's how I'd imagine it would work if our philosophies were transported into such a world...
On a similar note, I found myself coming into a similar problem when some of my characters started telling stories, especially the Native American folklore that already had talking animal characters in them. A furry storyteller telling stories about talking animals might not seem that fantastical in comparison to our own reality. However, in some of the tellings of these legends the animal characters are specifically referred to as "four-legged ones", and people as "two-legged ones", which could easily dissolve any confusion. Then again, there is something kind of funny about a anthro-coyote telling stories about a character named "Coyote". One just has to wonder whether he's talking about some mythical, four-legged character who talked and acted as a modern "two-legged man" in ancient times, or whether he's just telling a story about something that happened to a great-great-uncle of his. Definitely something to think about...
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Well, if I recall right, Vanessa spoke of non-morphic animals within the world. Such as the horses pulling the cart that dropped William off.
And if worse comes to worse, you can take care of meat by doing like they did in Madagascar. Fish!
As far as predator and prey goes, that reminds me of a roleplaying "D&D" like game called After the Bomb, which I've mention before I beleive. IT actually has some rules set in for that "Prey vs Predator" interaction, and it can sometimes lead to nasty results.
Heh..  ..I could take this in a rather mischievous direction, eating one another and what forth, but I think I'll just stifle myself for now.
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| Foxonian wrote: | | Xebulon,that is a very deep thought. |
Thanks. I have those from time to time.
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| JohnnyPsycho wrote: | | The few who would find such things troubling would be the folks who probably read Darwin's works. |
Given Xeb's history, I should think he would.
| JohnnyPsycho wrote: | | On a similar note, I found myself coming into a similar problem when some of my characters started telling stories, especially the Native American folklore that already had talking animal characters in them. A furry storyteller telling stories about talking animals might not seem that fantastical in comparison to our own reality. However, in some of the tellings of these legends the animal characters are specifically referred to as "four-legged ones", and people as "two-legged ones", which could easily dissolve any confusion. Then again, there is something kind of funny about a anthro-coyote telling stories about a character named "Coyote". One just has to wonder whether he's talking about some mythical, four-legged character who talked and acted as a modern "two-legged man" in ancient times, or whether he's just telling a story about something that happened to a great-great-uncle of his. Definitely something to think about... |
Interesting. You've definitely given me some food for thought Johnny. Thank you.
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An interesting article, thank you Vanessa. It does answer a couple of questions. It's a bit of a problem I'm having in my own story right now, that's why it's been on my mind so much. The thought though stemmed from my tendency to look at things from a "realistic" or "scientific" standpoint. So far, the only furry media I know of to address the issue of predator/prey relationships in an anthropomorphic world is the webcomic Suburban Jungle (www.suburbanjungle.com).
For example, perspiration. Most animals commonly represented as furries (canines, felines, etc) do not have sweat glands. Therefor, they don't sweat. Ergo, maintaining their body temperature would be more difficult during strenuous physical activity (sex, combat, exorcise, etc) leading one to conclude that the risk of things like heat-stroke would be greater. Especially in environments with higher temperatures or while wearing several layers of clothes. While Bon Bon is located at a higher altitude, meaning lower temperatures, one would think that such things could still be problematic during the Summer.
Like I said, I think way too much about this kind of stuff. 
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Whenever I find myself thinking too hard about such things, I always remember the sage-like wisdom of the Mystery Science Theater 3000 theme-song:
| Quote: | ...Just repeat to yourself: "It's just a show
I should really just relax"... |
works equally well on TV shows as it does for furry webcomics...
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| Xebulon wrote: | | For example, perspiration. Most animals commonly represented as furries (canines, felines, etc) do not have sweat glands. Therefor, they don't sweat. Ergo, maintaining their body temperature would be more difficult during strenuous physical activity (sex, combat, exorcise, etc) leading one to conclude that the risk of things like heat-stroke would be greater. Especially in environments with higher temperatures or while wearing several layers of clothes. While Bon Bon is located at a higher altitude, meaning lower temperatures, one would think that such things could still be problematic during the Summer. |
Well, maybe that's one reason women are so willing to show a lot of fur in what looks like a temperate/chilly climate. And I just tell myself they just pant. A lot. If that fails, I remind myself that there are plenty of reasons why furries haven't evolved. I've worked hard to be as tolerant of flights of fancy as I am now. 
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Don't get me wrong, trying to puzzle these things out doesn't detract from my enjoyment. I'm just one of those people who's always trying to figure out how things work.
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Its alright Xebulon, your not alone in that aspect. ^_^
If anything, first I simply read and enjoy, then re-read to start building such questions in my head. That way, by the 3rd time I've read it, I begin to look for answers. ^_^ Tripling my satisfaction from such works, and thoroughly enjoying it.
Those are some pretty feasible reasons Kommy.
And Thank you for that Article Vanessa. ^_^
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