SexyFighters.com

[Carrie-Phox]

okiedokie, properly i'll be gone for a while too so I must watch out lol
_________________
The lion within me...

[LabrnMystic]

[Ashton Gray]

[Xebulon]

Hmm, that is a possibility. Though I think her not having children of her own is probably more by choice than circumstance. Pregnancy can be a bit of a problem in her profession.
_________________
I like old jokes. With them I know when to laugh.

[Ashton Gray]

I might have thought that too, Xebulon, that not having children was a choice rather than an event but, but her saying "only with them I can appease my maternal spirit." causes me to think she may not have a say in the matter of birth. And besides, I fail to see how her chosen profession bars her from having a family, not that it would'nt be intresting, if not diffficult, but I still fail to see why she can't have a family or at least a child or children of her own, it seems to me she'd make a grande mamma.
_________________
Silentium est aurum

[Xebulon]

Very true Mr. Gray. Edelweiss does seem to be ideal mother material. What I was referring to though, was that when pregnant, it would be more difficult for a prostitute to prostitute. Ergo, if Edelweiss (or presumably any of her "girls") were to get knocked up, it would result in a decrease of profits proportionate to how many are pregnant and how popular those "girls" are with the clientele. Basically it would amount to bad business sense.
_________________
I like old jokes. With them I know when to laugh.

[Ashton Gray]

Yes, that may be true, Xebulon, but something tells me Edelweiss would be more than happy to give her or her girls a reprieve for such a reason and a number of others I would imagine. I also don't think Edelweiss is so concerned with profits as to force her girls to forgo motherhood should the appropriate circumstances apply, such as falling in love and wanting to start a family.
_________________
Silentium est aurum

[Xebulon]

Again true. And again, she may not have had a choice. If memory serves, we currently do not know whether the Delight Castle under Edelweiss was a casino or just a brothel. If the casino existed then it is probably safe to assume that DC's income is enough to cover it's expenses. If not, then it not unreasonable to assume that she may have been in a tighter financial situation then would be apparent. Assuming that the "working girls" keep a portion of what they earn and the rest is taxed by the business.

Food for the newly opened restaurant (both for clients and staff), medical expenses (I assume that Edelweiss would not allow her girls to suffer illness or injury when she can correct it)salary for the maintenance and maid staff, cost of construction for the restaurant, cost of supplies for maintenance and repairs, electricity (if it had been introduced to Bon Bon at that time) or gas/candles for evening functions, clothes/education for the twins, possibly clothes for the girls (though they probably bought their own), advertising, laundry services, the list goes on.

Bleh, playing the devil's advocate is a pain in the derriere.
_________________
I like old jokes. With them I know when to laugh.

[Ashton Gray]

I don't suppose you considered, Xebulon, as distasteful and vulgar as it may seems to some, there may be some who would accept payment in trade? And in regards to what the Delight Castle was under Edelweiss, I think it is safe to assume it was indeed at least a brothel, as evidence I refer you to two things that were said in the story when Edelweiss was present, the first is from page 22 in issue #2: "The young girls that Edelweiss gave shelter to within the Delight Castle did'nt prostitue themselves...". The second is the entire first page of issue #4.
_________________
Silentium est aurum

[Xebulon]

[Ashton Gray]

You're welcome. Hm, I just noticed something, you are the only one who has responded to my original query that started the conversation we have had. Nothing to say, you others?
_________________
Silentium est aurum

[LabrnMystic]

[Ashton Gray]

Hm, I suppose it's possible but I don't think he's been funding it since he left Bon Bon and stopped being it's mayor, that's assuming he ever did fund it in the first place, of course, and I somehow don't think that was the case.
_________________
Silentium est aurum

[Xebulon]

Which brings to my mind the question of why he came there in the first place. From what we know of Mr. Blue, it appears that he despises vulgarity Therefore, it would be reasonable to assume that socio-economical structure of the town that preceded Bon Bon was different enough to attract Simon.

What changed, I wonder, to turn Bon Bon into what it is now? When did this occur? Why did/does Simon simply take Mary and move away somewhere else if he dislikes the town and it's people so strongly? Does his continued habitation in the vicinity of Bon Bon mean that he has hidden feels about the town? Perhaps an agenda we don't yet see (like becoming mayor again and changing the town back to what it used to be)?
_________________
I like old jokes. With them I know when to laugh.

[Ashton Gray]

That's assuming the town has changed from one state to another. I speculated before that Simon may have been apart of Bon Bon's current stock and trade and may have had a hand in starting it and therefor participated in it. And there is also the fact that Bon Bon seems to have a wide spread reputation as a, how did Dorian put it, "the ideal place to hide if you are in trouble. No one asks you who you are in Bon Bon. Because Bon Bon is the city of pleasure and SEX!" That says to me that Bon Bon has been as it is for a great while. And then there is the fact that Mr.Blue established Bon Bon's laws and has stated quite clearly that he cannot leave his home, at least not until Mary gets married.
_________________
Silentium est aurum

[kommy]

Well, since the diamond mine is the source of Mr. Blue's wealth and there is nothing to indicate that the mine has shut down, the logical assumption is that he stays there because he needs to keep a close eye on his business. I can scarcely imagine the amount of attention such a business requires to avoid corruption.

However, it brings up the peculiar thing that we have yet to see any miners. I would think their patronage would be the bread and butter of the Delight Castle just as it was in the mining boomtowns of the American West. But maybe they frequent lower scale establishments.
_________________
"Doktor! Are you sure this will work?!" "HAHA! I HAVE NO IDEA!"

[Ashton Gray]

Hm, you raise an intresting point there, Doktor, it could be that the miners, if indeed there are still miners, cannot afford to frequent the Delight Castle. I would'nt imagine them being paid a great amount for their work, even in a diamond mine, so maybe they do frequent lower scale establishments or interact with the, how was it phrased, "the street girls (the novices)".
_________________
Silentium est aurum

[Xebulon]

That is a possibility. Though it would depend on how the mining company is run. Sometimes, mining companies would only allow their workers to buy from company stores, rent company housing, relax at company bars, etc. All these services provided at a reduced cost (for reduced quality mind you) while increasing the miner's debt to the company when they cannot afford the prices and must loan from the company itself. This practice was more common in the mines in Africa than the United States though.
_________________
I like old jokes. With them I know when to laugh.

[LabrnMystic]

Well, there is a good chance that plenty of the miners have already been seen, but they have more proper attire, as everyone who comes to BonBon seems well dressed. Even those who don't have a florine left to their name, as we saw when one of the gentlemen behind Betty wished he could afford her, only to find a moth in his pocket.
_________________
The suspense is killing me. I hope it will last.

[Ashton Gray]

That was George, I believe. I always thought the moth flying from his purse meant he was simply far away from being able to make an appointment with Betty, not that he was broke.
_________________
Silentium est aurum

[JohnnyPsycho]

wow, okay, so page 6 just gave us all a huge clue as to how Edelweiss got banished from Bon Bon. And if this issue's cover wasn't enough of a clue, Betty's declaration of "Soon I and Mary will be together again..." really seems to hint at Betty and Mary being a bit more "intimate" with eachother (or maybe that's just my own wishful thinking... i hope i hope i hope). I suppose "together" could just mean "being friends", but still, I gotta hope for something like that in this comic...

So, was it just the fact that Betty was friends with Mary that got Simon to invoke the "Privacy Law", or did Betty uncover something accidentally during her secret visits to the Blue Estate? Hmm... things continue to get more and more interesting...
_________________
Johnny's Fanfics (including Sureshot! A Bon Bon Tale)

Johnny's backstory
Johnny, Mark II (Project Aten character)

[Ashton Gray]

Mr.Blue may have invoked the "Privacy Law" against Edelweiss because it was she who enlightened Betty on the Blue family's situation, who they were, Simon's past as the mayor of Bon Bon, Mary's imprisonment, and who knows what else? (Aside from Ms.Santato, of course) From Betty's explaination under drink, however, it seems that Simon may have tried to invoke that law against her first then Edelweiss intervened and took the punishment in Betty's stead. As you said, Johnny, "things continue to get more and more intresting..."
_________________
Silentium est aurum

[LabrnMystic]

[Ashton Gray]

Let's not forget, good people, that Vanessa has already stated that Mary is heterosexual, not homosexual or bisexual, so that tends to blow the idea of Betty and Mary having a more "intimate" relationship almost completely out of the water.
_________________
Silentium est aurum

[kommy]

True, but it doesn't blow Betty's desires out of the water, Ashton. Unrequited love is often more interesting when the genders and orientations do not mix well.

Myself, I hesitate to draw subtler inferences from the dialogue. Forgive me, but sometimes it feels like something is lost in translation. Subtle allusions and shades of meaning can be extraordinarily difficult to translate, after all.
_________________
"Doktor! Are you sure this will work?!" "HAHA! I HAVE NO IDEA!"

[Ashton Gray]

Hence the reason why I used the word "almost". And I too have found that many subtleties can be lost in translation, it can be very annoying, to say the least.
_________________
Silentium est aurum

[LabrnMystic]

I know it all too well. The subtle change of colored text to show Mystic talking in violet, where as I am regular black was too much for a few of our members.

Hence why Labryn (theres no "Y" in the name Drake. ) ended up in Drake's story as a female.

Though crawling up someone and giggling with mischief may be something he'd do, it wouldn't be on top of a stallion.
_________________
The suspense is killing me. I hope it will last.

[Vanessa]

[ksathra-blackfox]

That is the thing I love about this comic with every page it keeps getting better and better.

[YoungCesar]