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Caroline Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:53 pm Post subject: Masterbation and Valentines Day |
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((**RANT ON**
Okay... time once again for another one of 'Caroline's Real World Avatar Stories'... and this one is going to be a rant of sorts.
Why is that when when you talk to guys about guys masterbating it's either one of two things: 1) Oh I don't masturbate, or 2) That's gross... but in the same breath, guys seem to think a girl masturbating is hot... and that girl's always masturabe to total and utter, hot-and-sweaty orgasm.
Well, it's not. First of all, it's a lot of work to even get started. Guys are like rockets... ignition-POW-done... 5 or 10 mins tops... and that's using just a half-naked picture of Heidi Klum. Girls, we'll we're more like a bombing run with B52s... slow... dangerous... but when the bombs drop, watch out!
In fact, it's dull as hell for me when I try to masturbate. And you know why? Because I'm touching myself! Their is no suprize, no intamacy for me. Sure, I know what my own buttons are, but I still know what I'm going to do next. It's like I've already seen the movie, and know what's coming up next. YAWN! And, I can tell you, I sure have never orgasmed over masturbating. I've done a real orgasm like four times... and one time, Steve thought I was going to kill him I contracted so much... which actually is kinda funny, given I'm like 93 pounds sopping wet, and totally have the physique of one of those lolita girls... and people wonder why I like goth stuff.
And now, here it is coming up on Valentines day... and yes, I know Valentines Day is totally made up, and I should totally hate it, but... it's kinda nice being way more spoiled than usual. but stupid Steve has to go out with the guys in Vegas. I know what happens in Vegas! So... of course, one of my other guy friends is just like, 'hey, why don't you just masturbate, if you're that horney'... GAH! I nearly killed him with my scowl...
Stupid Valentine's Day
**RANT OFF**)) |
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Symphony Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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...and here I was expecting this to be a topic about simultaneously crying and masturbating on "single awareness day"...
...not that I've done such a thing...
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...back on subject, I've noticed you have the same problem that a lot of women have. This difficulty in achieving orgasm and be attributed the idea of "Goal Oriented" sex. You might be thinking about the prize, concentrating too much on the orgasm and in doing so, you're thwarting your own plan.
Try to relax as much as you can... take your mind off of everything and just enjoy the feeling... don't think about the orgasm, and you might be amazed at how easily it'll come. |
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henkcobra Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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I can attest that everytime a female has started asking about masturbation, I out and out give honest replies. I am not one to get all flushed when someone brings up a 14A conversation.
For one, I can understand what youre saying. When it comes to guys, we may find ourselves very much fired up and simply want to get off. I think males in general are easier to arouse through basic visual means. Internet, magazines, strip shows, what have you.
I will attest however, that I am one who will try his hardest to please the other being in my bed. I do enjoy the intimacy of sex with someone special and that sometimes leads me to situations where I could launch a one night stand, but get bored because there is no real connection and then go home and whack off. I hear that that makes me a weird individual.
But yeah, your friend is pretty clueless. _________________ Ewan's Golden Glass
Fine Alcohol and Good Times
Who the hell is Ewan Bushmill?
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Tadelesh Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Guys either say they don't masturbate or that it's gross? What the hell kind of guys have you talked to? Obviously not any normal ones, or maybe they're just dishonest, and trying to impress you. I tend to be honest when asked about things, so I'd tell you straight.
As for Valentine's Day (AKA Singles' Awareness Day), I've always hated it, as I've never had a girlfriend on the day, apart from one who dumped me on it before we even saw each other that day. Hey, I just realised, Singles' Awareness Day shortens to SAD. Though if I did have a girlfriend around this time, there's no way I'd go off to Vegas (hell, it's expensive to go all the way there from here anyway), at least not without taking her with me. That's one of the dumbest moves a guy can make, and I'm surprised you didn't decide to dump his ass for it. _________________ Wow, sarcasm! That's original. |
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Lidia_Apricot Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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I think it is OK for a girl and a boy to masturbate. We all know the diseases when transmitting sexually and some people do not want to take a risk of getting one or a person is in "heat" and there is not anyone who can ease it, so they do it themselves to ease their pleasure.
As for Valentine's Day, I'm not into this type of Holiday. Sure, it is easy for person to say "HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY!" to everyone with a smile on their face, but on the inside, the feel of envy, depress, or just not interested. |
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Kasumi Rank: Senior Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I am a little surprised that a girl would be so frank about masturbation. But in any case, I think having your boyfriend tell you to go masturbate instead of spending time together is a little crass at best.
As for Valentine's Day, I'm very surprised that people are so upset over it. Maybe it's because I'm older, so I have the wisdom that (supposedly) comes over time. But I can't recall ever wanting to call it "Singles Awareness Day". To me, calling it the latter implies some kind of jealousy or anger over your situation.
If you're happy with where you are, then it shouldn't let it bother you. I can attest that I'm pretty satisfied with being single. If the right person came along, then it would be great. I guess that people don't realize that for every happy relationship that you hear, there's one which fell apart. Or there's the loveless relationships that stay together out of convenience, the people that aren't faithful to each other, or people that exploit somebody for money/sex/power. Let's put it this way. You know that something is deeply wrong with the perception of love when half of the movies and various media shows having an affair as something romantic and has that "forbidden" erotic appeal to it. Then the other half of the media shows having an affair as nothing but adultery, a violation of one of the Ten Commandments, and grounds for divorce and/or shooting your cheating spouse.
If you want to make a big deal out of Valentine's Day, then that's your choice. It's nice to treat your partner with extra attention. But at the same time, the holiday has become so overblown and commercialized, so anybody that doesn't want to make a big deal out of it shouldn't. In the end, it comes down to an imaginary holiday that's just another day of the week. |
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Mystic Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:00 am Post subject: |
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What the hell Caroline? You rant at us in my thread "is it rutting season" then start up a conversation about masturbation? Silly thing. *Laughs and takes a seat*
Oddly enough, I find masturbation more personal. Though you may find it uninteresting because its you and there are no surprises, that's where your imagination has to come in to play. There's no law saying you have to have your eyes open the whole time during sugar.
Though, I much prefer it if I have a partner. I'd reward him well if he gets the mission completed. _________________ Oh, I'd tell myself
What good do you do
Convince myself |
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Xebulon Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Personally, I can't stand Valentine's Day and today in particular isn't helping. I'm at work, I'm sober and the custmers today have proven to be dumber than a box of rocks. Bleh, I've got some Old Crustacean (http://rogue.com/beers/old-crustacean.php) and V-twelve (http://victorybeer.com/vtwelve.html) at home, so things will definately improve.
As for masturbation? *shrugs* Yes, I masturbate. So what? It's not like it's a new development. Heck, if anything it can be a great work out for my imagination. Granted, sometimes it's more of a chore. Let's be honest guys, would you rather be five minutes late to work or blue balling for four hours? But in all seriousness, I don't see why so many people make a big deal out of it. At least not until they make it an Olympic event. _________________ I like old jokes. With them I know when to laugh. |
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Caroline Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Mystic:
Quote: | What the hell Caroline? You rant at us in my thread "is it rutting season" then start up a conversation about masturbation |
((Sorry about that, Mystic. I meant the comment in your thread as a teasing joke more than anything, from the libidos on this place... sorry. I really didn't meant it to sound mean or anything.
As to the whole masturbation thing... I appreciate the ideas and comments, but I just wanted to rant for a bit. No real hel needed, or ideas I was looking for... just kinda wanted to vent a bit of frustration I was having with my real-life friends... sorry about getting you all worried for me and whatnot. Just... blowing off steam.
And you guys tend to find my real-world adventures amusing... so... I just thought I'd put it up.
I've had 15 years worth of practice to see if I could make masturabation fun for me... and *shrug* I dunno... it just... doesnt get fun. I guess the guys on this side of the mirror kinda know how to push my buttons, so the original comment made to me was to yank my chain... so... um... anyway, now that I think I've completely confused everyone... um... yeah.)) |
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Tursi Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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To be brutally honest, if 5-10 mins was all it took, I'd be a lot happier. It's one thing to spend a long time with someone special, and take your time. It's another to spend a long time by yourself. _________________ http://harmlesslion.com |
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Honestly...
...60% of men admit to masturbating...
...the rest, lie... |
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JohnnyPsycho Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Geez, the things I miss out on when I'm without internet...
For me, masturbation is a purely mechanical process, largely devoid of any emotional context other than the lovely but fleeting relief at the end, and even then its equivalent would be like letting go of a long pee after having held back for hours. Mostly, these days, I use it to get myself to fall asleep, not really to "enjoy myself", and I suppose that's a shame. The release I achieve from normal masturbation pales in comparison to a real, earthshattering, toe-curling, hair standing on end orgasm that I have only had perhaps a couple dozen times in my memory, half of which were from actual sex with other people. Then again, I'm not sure if I'm having only mini-orgasms when I get myself off, or I'm just an orgasm junkie and have already gotten used to the ones I already get. I hope orgasms don't work that way, I'd hate to see the lengths I'd have to go to in the future if that's true...
I can somewhat agree with Caroline's sentiment that, after years of "self love", things can get predictable and stale, and it's a bummer when you realize it's hit that point... after all, boring and predictable should be for old married couples, not lonely single perverts, right? Sometimes you just have to try new things, not be afraid of going out of your own boundaries sometimes (after all, you're the one in control, so just go nuts), but always remember that what you do to yourself isn't hurting anybody. Just make sure you go outside and see sunlight every now and then...
There you go, I shared. Take of it what you will. _________________ Johnny's Fanfics (including Sureshot! A Bon Bon Tale)
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Sha`Kaar Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, just returning and i have something inciteful to say. Well kinda.
As for Masturbation, It is true that it is a biological function of the body, and thus everyone does it. Men and Women alike. Men do however have a simpler time of it. And it is in no way a substitution for a real partner. But the thing that is good about masturbation is precisely what Johnny (hey Man, long time no see) said, its ground to allow your self experimentation. Partners are hard to talk to about trying new things, its hard to control events when someone else is running the show.
But if your running it, you can do anything you want. Use icecubes? (Honestly, one i find great). Maybe try Hot wax? hey, even maple syrup if you wish. Point is its your choice, your in control, so have fun, and learn your boundaries.
Now as for Valentines Day, never in my 28 Years of living have i heard it called "Singles' Awareness Day". But mind you it can feel like it. In fact, something people don't seem to know, or learn, or even been taught was the origins of Valentines day. There are a few, and historians will tell you this. Two come to mind right now.
1. It was a Pegan Holiday of fertility, where they sacrificed animals and whipped young virgins with the fresh still bleeding hides to make them fertile.
2. Is based of the Martyrdom of Saint Valentine, whom rebelled against Emperor Claudius II during the 3rd Century AD Rome, when the Emperor claimed marriages to be illegal. Saint Valentine would marry lovers in secret. Valentine was discovered and executed on what is believed to be Feb 14th
For myself, Valentines day holds nothing really special, as it happen to also be my anniversary, but even before i found my boyfriend, and was sad and lonely, i never looked at it as a day to point out my singleness, i honored what the day truly meant. As a tradition of Pegan worship, and a martyrdom of a saint.
History is a wonderful thing, when you think of it. |
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Lidia_Apricot Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Ska'Kaar wrote: | History is a wonderful thing, when you think of it. |
Indeed. History helps us in many ways :3. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Tadelesh wrote: | Guys either say they don't masturbate or that it's gross? What the hell kind of guys have you talked to? Obviously not any normal ones, or maybe they're just dishonest, and trying to impress you. I tend to be honest when asked about things, so I'd tell you straight. |
Agreed. You've been talking to the wrong guys. LOL
I believe for guys (since I cant speak for the rest)- guys masturbation requires a visual simulation- or imagination. Hence the need for watching "porn" or reading(for most its hardly reading but staring at) a dirty magazine.
Guys masturbate. That's why the porn DVD and websites are still up and running and thriving. And they like watching girls masturbate. _________________ "Every exit is an entrance somewhere else." -Tom Stoppard
http://www.eadultcomics.com/ - for the best in online erotic adult comics
http://www.eadultgames.com/ - adult games, strip poker, strip blackjack, and more.
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Apparently nobody except me has had the full pleasure of staying at the Shaolin Temple where there are no pornos,dirty mags,and where the monks frown at such actions.Also I find it funny that the porn industry wants there own financial bailout these days. _________________ “If you love life, don’t waste time, for time is what life is made up of.”
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JohnnyPsycho Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:34 am Post subject: |
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Sha`Kaar wrote: | 2. Is based of the Martyrdom of Saint Valentine, whom rebelled against Emperor Claudius II during the 3rd Century AD Rome, when the Emperor claimed marriages to be illegal. Saint Valentine would marry lovers in secret. Valentine was discovered and executed on what is believed to be Feb 14th | More specifically, the Emperor forbade marriage for young men, as it was believed married men made poor soldiers, and much of Rome's army was built of young conscripts rather than volunteers. There's sometimes more added to the story as well, such as St. Valentine having cured the blindness of his jailer's daughter, and of sending a love note, the first "Valentine", to a woman the day before his execution (some say it was the same jailer's daughter whom he had cured, some say it was another woman, and that the jailer's daughter had acted as courier).
Still, there's very little actual proof that any of this is true, plus St. Valentine's Day was actually named for at least two seperate martyred saints named Valentine who lived at different times. That's the trouble with history: the further back you go, the harder it is to sort out the real facts from popular fiction. _________________ Johnny's Fanfics (including Sureshot! A Bon Bon Tale)
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Caroline Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Though if I did have a girlfriend around this time, there's no way I'd go off to Vegas (hell, it's expensive to go all the way there from here anyway), at least not without taking her with me. That's one of the dumbest moves a guy can make, and I'm surprised you didn't decide to dump his ass for it |
To Tadelesh:
((While I do understand the sentiment, Steve puts up with way too much of my baggage already for me to just drop him like a ton of bricks... and he's actually going for a work conference... some IT thing or another. Shoot, the way he talks about it, he could be going to a Star Trek convention for all I know. I'm a scientist, not a computer guru )) |
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Sha`Kaar Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:35 am Post subject: |
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JohnnyPsycho wrote: |
Still, there's very little actual proof that any of this is true, plus St. Valentine's Day was actually named for at least two seperate martyred saints named Valentine who lived at different times. That's the trouble with history: the further back you go, the harder it is to sort out the real facts from popular fiction. |
Oh i know there are many other causes for the holiday. those were just the first two that came to mind, as a way of pointing out that its not, in reality, the holiday that people think it is.
I find it saddening that here i am at 28, and teenagers today have no idea about certain truths. Like Pluto, it to me will always be a planet, but in a decade the new generation will know of it as a moon. Knowledge is being lost and changed to suit generations with shorter attention gaps. |
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Tadelesh Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Most things are not what they seem, especially special days.
As for things like Pluto; it means the mnemonic I learned doesn't quite apply any more. My Very Easy Method Just Speeds Up Naming Planets. Mercury Venus Earth Mars Jupiter Saturn Uranus Neptune Pluto. All general knowledge quizzes will have the wrong answer now, when asking how many planets in the solar system.
Anyway, let's get back to the topic.. _________________ Wow, sarcasm! That's original. |
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LabrnMystic Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:02 am Post subject: |
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*Raises his hand* Indeed, I'm a member of the jerkin' squad.
Though, unlike some of the men around here, if its really craving some attention, I don't need an image to help stimulate the idea. I have my imagination. As the song goes, Hey Xeb, gimme the base line.
"Bite my lip and close my eyes! Take me away to paradise.
Some say quit or I'll go blind, but it's just a myth"
I worked Valentine's Day this year, and thats alright. I'm still single right now. However, I did write a love poem for a friend on FA because she asked for one. ^_^ _________________ The suspense is killing me. I hope it will last. |
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Drofgod969 Royal Member of BonBon
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Caroline i can tell you right now, it takes me more than 10 min... i forgot what else i was going to say. _________________ yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. that's why it is called the present.
quoted by master Oogway off kong fu panda
Some weep, some cry, some make couches fly. - Katmir
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henkcobra wrote: | 10 thats is fast. For me it's 5 to get a hard one and 1 hour to get my release.
Much more fun to delay it than to get it quick. |
Yikes. I wish I had that kind of time to spare. _________________ Ewan's Golden Glass
Fine Alcohol and Good Times
Who the hell is Ewan Bushmill?
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Tadelesh Royal Member of BonBon
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Imagination can often be better than porn, I find.
When it comes to how long it takes, that varies. It takes however long I want it to take; I only wish it could be like that when it comes to sex. _________________ Wow, sarcasm! That's original. |
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Mystic Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:40 am Post subject: |
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Caroline wrote: | ((Sorry about that, Mystic. I meant the comment in your thread as a teasing joke more than anything, from the libidos on this place... sorry. I really didn't meant it to sound mean or anything..)) |
Its alright Caroline. Though in the future, to help show your being sarcastic, add the emote at the end to show your teasing. Sometimes its hard to tell one someone is serious and when they're joking through text. _________________ Oh, I'd tell myself
What good do you do
Convince myself |
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