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Gantros Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: BonBon Online |
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I remember Ronald saying that a long term goal is to create an interactive BonBon, but it was implied that it would be 3D, like WoW or Second Life. However, I do not find this feasible. Instead, I had an inspiration to model an interactive BonBon after Japanese dating sims, or bishōjo. This method, I think, is more feasible and in my opinion, more entertaining. By using static backgrounds and limited static images of characters (mouth movement and eye blinks, plus emotional expressions), having a truly interactive BonBon is possible, and in the relatively near future compared to a fully 3D environment. I'm not saying in a year or even two, but I just had the inspiration to model a interactive BonBon on bishōjo games. _________________ Most have only two choices in life, a life of happiness, or a life of meaning. It is truly a rare thing when one can achieve both. But given the choice, I choose happiness. |
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MidNight Tiger Rank: Senior Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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I agree that a bishōjo type bonbon would be great.
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Shadow9808 Royal Member of BonBon
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Ashton Gray Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Certainly an intresting idea, to say the least. _________________ Silentium est aurum |
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green_fox Rank: Mr. Fabulous
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:42 am Post subject: |
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Normally I'd say that I prefer the 3D version. But I think in this case the 3D models would hardly match the quality of Vanessa's (and of course the other artist's ) work. I'd be fine with the bishōjo version _________________ click here |
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UltimaWolf0 Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:04 am Post subject: |
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I can imagine something along the line that looks similar to the Poker game. |
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Ronald Forum Admin
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:07 am Post subject: |
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Still out of town right now. Remotely logged in to clean up the forum.
But regarding the MMO game. Well- I never said I wanted a 3D game like WoW or second life. It just happens to be in the poll cuz that's what was given to me as poll questions.
I am on board all the way with you guys in regards to using 2D sprites for an MMO. I was thinking more like Maple, Giaonline, Ragnorok, Trickster style. Some of those names might not ring a bell for people in a poll question.
The big challenge is going to be creating the custom selection.
Gantros if you can drop me an email with some links and stuff that would be great.
I had planned for a dating sims game of some sort for BonBon a while back. It wouldn't be MMO but nice to get some sort of adventure game feel to BonBon.
Let's keep the discussions rolling.
-R _________________ "Every exit is an entrance somewhere else." -Tom Stoppard
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LabrnMystic Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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I'm familiar with Ragnarok and Maple story.
Also, I think sprites are at times far better than 3D. You certainly can get better details, especially in facial expressions. Not to mention, if you want something animated, flash can easily make that happen. _________________ The suspense is killing me. I hope it will last. |
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Ronald Forum Admin
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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I prefer sprites myself. 3D games usually make me dizzy.
-R _________________ "Every exit is an entrance somewhere else." -Tom Stoppard
http://www.eadultcomics.com/ - for the best in online erotic adult comics
http://www.eadultgames.com/ - adult games, strip poker, strip blackjack, and more.
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Bestile1 Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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and sprites are so much easier to work with on the development side |
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Ashton Gray Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Ronald wrote: | 3D games usually make me dizzy.-R |
Lightweight. (sorry, I could'nt resist ) _________________ Silentium est aurum |
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duo2nd Rank: Veteran
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:47 am Post subject: |
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I wish this will be true. |
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kommy Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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I like setting the achievable as a goal. I'm a huge fan of cutting out the flashy stuff and keeping it nice and simple. Cheaper, reliable, and likely to actually be accomplished. _________________ "Doktor! Are you sure this will work?!" "HAHA! I HAVE NO IDEA!" |
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Feloua Rank: Total Noob
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'm down for a Ragnarok styled MMO BonBon. |
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Xebulon Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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kommy wrote: | I like setting the achievable as a goal. I'm a huge fan of cutting out the flashy stuff and keeping it nice and simple. Cheaper, reliable, and likely to actually be accomplished. |
I have to agree with the good Doktor. Let's see what can be accomplished before we decide what we want to be done. _________________ I like old jokes. With them I know when to laugh. |
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BrightAngelChii Rank: Rookie
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:48 am Post subject: |
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I have seen already few times 2d mmos on few sites made with flash so I think it isn't impossible though for myself is making 3d character more easy then making 2d ones. |
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Foxonian Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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I have seen a few people come up with a lot of great ideas that I personally felt were a little "too far in the future" to be acted on yet for a number of reasons.While I think it's great to suggest something for the site,I think we should keep in mind the RL realities that have to be delt with to make what we wish come to pass.Sometimes,it's easy to do,sometimes it's not. |
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Shadow9808 Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Xebulon wrote: | kommy wrote: | I like setting the achievable as a goal. I'm a huge fan of cutting out the flashy stuff and keeping it nice and simple. Cheaper, reliable, and likely to actually be accomplished. |
I have to agree with the good Doktor. Let's see what can be accomplished before we decide what we want to be done. |
Second it. _________________ Path of Darkness Chapter 12 is up! Read it here: http://forums.pleasurebonbon.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5240 |
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LabrnMystic Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Foxonian wrote: | I have seen a few people come up with a lot of great ideas that I personally felt were a little "too far in the future" to be acted on yet for a number of reasons.While I think it's great to suggest something for the site,I think we should keep in mind the RL realities that have to be delt with to make what we wish come to pass.Sometimes,it's easy to do,sometimes it's not. |
Oh come come now Foxonian. Where's your sense of childish hope and imagination? _________________ The suspense is killing me. I hope it will last. |
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Crimson Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:47 am Post subject: |
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In the garbage _________________ Crimson's Construction.
Bettering Bon Bon one building at a time. |
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Foxonian Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Oh,my childish sense of imagination got caught looking in the ladies shower too many times and got a reality check! XD |
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Logan Rank: Casual
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:53 am Post subject: |
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Heya people, i personally think a pbb game should be done in 2D, not because you cant make it in 3D, but because it would take longer time or a larger team to get good results in 3D
by all means if that's what the people want, then do it, and if your at loss for what engine to use, I've heard quite good things about the unity engine: http://unity3d.com/ its both pretty up2date, and quite easy to use, the only downside is that the actual program you use to make the games with only runs on a mac. the games can run on both mac and windows though.
a few reasons why i think 2D would be better then 3D even though I'm a 3D artist and love 3D and would love a PBB game in full 3D
The team is used to making things in 2D and they are quite clearly good at it
It takes a much larger team to make something in 3D then in 2D, especially if you want it to look good.
One of the really nice things about PBB is the lighting (and shadows etc), getting something like that in 3D with the furry look would require different shaders and full dynamic lighting and soft-shadows (or els the shadows would need to be painted on the characters which can look a bit odd) that would probably result in some people being pissed off because their computer isnt good enough to play the game.
well, i don't have time to write any more, but ill check back next weekend and hopefully write some more.
but as said, if you guys want to make a 3D game, unity3D is probably the best "affordable" engine out there. |
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Shadow9808 Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Crimson wrote: | In the garbage |
The garbage? Isn't that about to be dumped into the- *CRASH FWOOSH* incenerator. Welp, look at the time! I best be going before they realize something! _________________ Path of Darkness Chapter 12 is up! Read it here: http://forums.pleasurebonbon.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5240 |
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August Bradway Rank: Casual
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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An MMO is do-able. I don't think 3d models of Bon Bon's working girls would replace the comics, though.
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Ashton Gray Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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I very much doubt anyone here is talking about replacing the comics, August. And if anyone is, I'll be having a "word" or two with them. _________________ Silentium est aurum |
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Symphony Royal Member of BonBon
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LabrnMystic Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Besides which, if you truly wanted to get involved in a 3D furry world, you could go to Second Life. That seems what most do on Furry Affinity and Deviant Art. _________________ The suspense is killing me. I hope it will last. |
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Gantros Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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I know that any kind of MMO is way in the future, but I thought Vanessa, Martin, and/or Ronald might be interested in this, Ren'Py, an open source dating sim making program. It might have potential.
http://www.renpy.org/wiki/renpy/Home_Page _________________ Most have only two choices in life, a life of happiness, or a life of meaning. It is truly a rare thing when one can achieve both. But given the choice, I choose happiness. |
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ksathra-blackfox Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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I for one wouldn't mind a bonbon dating sim. |
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Tadelesh Royal Member of BonBon
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:49 am Post subject: |
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It does sound like a very good idea. As much as I enjoy WoW-like 3D games, I also quite enjoy the 2D ones as well (out of that list you mentioned, the only one I've played is Gaia, but I've heard of Ragnarok and Maple), and it's much more doable; especially as fur in 3D is a nightmare for programming (take a look at Monsters, Inc. as an example, and that was just a movie, not an interactive game. I'm all for a 2D dating sim or MMO. Sounds great. _________________ Wow, sarcasm! That's original. |
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