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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:29 am    Post subject: Tit Critique_Honest man talk! Reply with quote

Alley, I just can't hold it back any longer. . . especially with the new Erotica px you just put up. I have to brutally honest here Alley. This is about your boobs plain and simple. Eventhough you still look very beautiful with your "new" boobs, it is nothing, and I mean nothing, compared to how they used to be. You had, and I stress HAD, the most beautiful and perfect set of tits I have ever seen on a woman, and trust me, I've seen many a tit. It was your boobs that originally got me to sign up with your site. Your archive section keeps reminding me of what once was. I just can't believe they are gone. Of course there are other woman with beautiful racks, but none as what you once possesed. I'm truly sorry Alley, for critiqueing you like this, but it's your fault for showing past px. God, your tits were MAGNIFICENT...why o why did you have to alter what God naturally gave you and "us" for that fact. I know...I know, your past threads have answered all this since you did the change, and I realize you said you had medical problems (back, etc.). And many of your loyal fans (of which I am still one) will defend you and say they don't care. I too said that, but in viewing that Erotica section recently, it reminded of the pain you used to give me when ever I saw your old rack. When people saw you they would just say, "SON OF A BITCH"!.....the combination of the size and shape of the old "girls" with your areolas and nipples was just too much for a man to take sometimes. I seriously have yet to see another woman that can provide such a reaction from their tits. Ohhh well. Sorry Alley, I just had to comment and let my feelings out. You're still a knock out, but ...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Tit Critique_Honest man talk! Reply with quote

I'm not the kind that reacts to every post there is about Alley, both positively or negatively. When there have been negative criticism (both before and after her surgery), I haven't responded to much, thinking that there were those who would defend Alley for me, and Alley is more than capable of standing up for herself. I generally don't like to say stuff to folks if I can't talk to them face-to-face. The Internet is so impersonal...anybody can say anything about anybody w/o personally being held accountable for it. If I can't talk to that person one-on-one, then I rather not respond to what they say in a post at all. I don't know you personally, Msal, so I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt to the though that you were just ranting and venting to get something off of your chest which I can understand. Everybody needs to vent and get things out in the open. If that is the case, then I'm okay with that...to a certain extent. However, after reading your post, I tired of holding back my silence on such posts. It's time for ME to vent.

First of all, it's been WELL OVER A YEAR since Alley's surgery, giving you plenty of time to get over it. I've honestly never seen an issue that has sparked such a response from so-called 'fans'. What got to me was this (one of many) comment:

msal wrote:
I'm truly sorry Alley, for critiqueing you like this, but it's your fault for showing past px.


REALLY??? HER fault for showing past pics??? HER fault that YOU can't get over it. SERIOUSLY?!?! I would have said more but you kinda summed it up when I saw this:

msal wrote:
why o why did you have to alter what God naturally gave you and "us" for that fact.


I guess that what it really boils down to...that 'fans' think that Alley took something from THEM, something that they owned, something that were theirs and theirs alone. God forbid if Alley did something for HER and her health and not for you, me, or for anyone else! Look, when I first saw Alley, I lusted at her body. Once I joined her site and gotten to know her through her journal, her e-mails, her posts, and even through her site, I've grown to appreciate Alley for the sensual woman she is. Someone who, normally might not would under any other circumstances, is able to express herself, artistically as well as sexually, through her pictures. She has really grown and become more confident by expressing herself through her work and it shows through her pictures. That ALONE is beyond sexy!!! She puts herself out there for folks to both admire and criticize...it's a pretty ballsy thing. Not everybody can do it and not everybody has the staying power like Alley has. Something for you to consider.

msal wrote:
You're still a knock out, but ...


Wow. What a thing to say...you're still a knockout, but...but WHAT??? There's more to being a knockout that just the physical aspect. Alley is an extremely beautiful person, both inside and out. Take the time to get to know her through her journal, her bio, her chats, NITEFLIRT, her interviews, etc. Bottom line...Alley's a knockout...PERIOD!!!

There are SO MANYpictures of Alley with her old breasts (both in Playboy as well as her own site), I really don't understand how can anybody still complain...especially since, like I've said before, it's been OVER A YEAR NOW!!! If you are still hung up on it, after all of the past pics Alley has done, all that Alley has accomplished, all of the stuff Alley has done for the AB Nation and still stayed the same centered, sweet, caring, loyal, lovable, modest, humble human being that she's always been...if you can't appreciate and more importantly EMBRACE it, Msal, then I truly don't know what more to say to you or to anyone else to make you feel otherwise.

Like I said, I saw this post yesterday and I thought I'd give it a day for someone to respond to it and, if someone didn't, then I'd take it upon myself to do so. If I was wrong and out of line, Msal, I truly apologize and hope you forgive me. I've read a few of your posts and you don't seem to be a mean-spirited person so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.

If it make you feel better (as well as to end this on a good note), take all of the photos that you may have of Alley's breasts (both before and after surgery), either through Playboy or on her site. Once you've done that, look at them, really study them. Once you've done that, once you've gathered in the details of Alley's new and old breasts [the size, shape, nipples, aerolas, weight, softness, succulentness(?), etc.], just keep one thing in mind: whatever happens in your life, know that you will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, EVER have a chance to hold, squeeze, caress, play, and/or suck on Alley's breasts!!! Neither the old ones nor the new ones!!! I mean, in a hundred millon years, you'll never have even a FRACTION of a chance with them!!! There, doesn't THAT make you feel better?!?!? Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An explosive topic of discussion. Wow.

I'm not going to say anything more. Smile

I can understand and relate to something of the things said here. Gonna just leave it at that.

I'm going to sit back and smile. Cool

Although, Tyger you must give msal some respect for being bold and saying things that others might be afraid to say.


Interesting discussion. Let's keep it friendly guys. No flames.


Did Alley ever make a poll about her boobs? Forgot.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got back from the Indy races in Texas over the weekend. Was sitting here and going through my e-mail and catching up. Started reading some posts in the forum. I hadn't looked at them since Wed. night.

Anyway, I am somewhat amazed at what people do and say sometimes. People are sometimes just so amazingly crual, and insensitive and have absolutly no respect or class what so ever. I mean if you have something to say or a thought about something, think before you say it. Otherwise keep your thoughts and opinions to yourself.

Tyger, I really thought you said it best in your post. Props to you my friend. There is alot I could say, but Tyger I think you covered all the bases. So there is really no sense in going on more about it. I 2nd everything you said buddy. Well thought out, and very well stated. Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Msal, I think you just need to tone your opinions down abit. There are times that you crack me up with some of your posts. Many times I get a kick out of reading them. But Msal, this was not one of them. I like Tyger, will give you the benifit of the doubt that you just used a little bad judgement and you wrote that post out without really thinking it through. At least I hope that was the case Msal. But I found your post in very poor taste and very, very bad judgement.

Msal, if you don't truly understand Alley, and the very tough and emotional decisions that she had to make concerning her health and quality of life. Then it's probibly best that you just move on. Oherwise, accept Alley for the great and warm person that she is. Understand and support her in some of the tough and difficult decisions that may come along in her life from time to time. And be there to suppot her and give her encouagement for the decisions she has to make to better her life. If you can come to terms with that, and be supportive in personal matters that she faces then please stay aboard and enjoy everything Alley has to offer.

Msal, I myself have made a few posts or statements that haven't gone over to well with Alley. I know I have pissed her off at times, and she probibly just wished I would go away. But on the matters where I have probibly gotten under her skin a little bit were all concerning the photo aspect or the business aspect. On the personal side of her desisions concerning her life or health or relationships I don't give her anything but support for her desisions. That's what people do when they care about someone. They support them. Alley knows what is best for her in her personal life and desisions. So just support her and understand that she does what she does because she knows what's best for her in those situations.

Anyway, just know that I am really disappointed in your post. I think it was uncalled for and very, very rude. I think you you really need to consider Alleys feelings before commiting on personal issues and decisions. I always call them as I see them also Msal. I have always been one to voice my opinions. If you ask 99% of the time I'm going to tell you. Like it or not I say what I think. But Msal, I also know when to not say anything and I never, never voice my opinion even if I don't agree on situations that concern someone's health or quality of life. If they want to know what my thoughts are, I just tell them to learn and explore all thier opintions and in the end to do what is the absolute best for them and thier life.

So, I just wanted to throw out my 2 cents. Take it or leave it Msal. I just thought you used bad judgement and think before you speak on a situation you think you know about. But frankly you really don't have a clue.




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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like Ronald, I'll just sit back and watch this thread with interest Laughing


I like your new boobs Alley Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dudes, Dudes, Dudes, Gentlemen: Wayyyyyyy too much thought into this. Relax gentlemen...Alley doesn't know me any more than she's familiar with the pickle-patch in the next state. I am not her friend and she is not mine...not in the true sense of the definition of "friend" -- someone I admire -- someone I grovel at -- and someone I respect both as a model and a business woman...absolutely, without doubt. However, having said that, I don't, nor do I ever expect, to go to the movies with; hang out with; have breakfast, lunch, or dinner with...or have over at my house with; nor, vise-versa. News flash, dudes! Ms. Alley Baggett is a former Playboy model -- 2x POY. Another "Breaking News Alert": The Playboy mag is a soft porno magazine. Ms. Baggett "allows" her fans to get to know her through and only by the "windows" (links) to items on her web site for customer service. Do you seriously think she models and has created and maintained this web site for the sheer courtesy of it? Alley "allows" her fans to get up close and personal because she and she alone decided to allow fans to get to know her on a personal basis. However, anyone is in grandures of illusion if they think they are her TRUE personal friends beyond what this site was intended. Read again: "Beyond what this site was intended." I don't mean to be presumptuous of Alley's intentions or her objectives, however, I don't believe this is a site similar to eharmony.com. For crying out loud, this reminds me of one of my college undergraduate courses in World Literature. We were studying the Bible as a work of literature -- nothing more, yet this one fellow took the class way above it's purpose. The dude just could not separate the religious from the literary aspects of the class. Needless to say, he, and he alone, screwed up the entire educational objective and enjoyment of the class, and just pissed off most everyone including the professor. Prof was getting agitated with the student by having to explain the actual study of the discourse for every chapter or verse we studied, i.e., he could not separate the literal from the abstract -- denotative from the connotative aim. That, will probably open a whole other thread by itself, but lets stay on task, shall we? Rolling Eyes Relax gentleman. I am tit-man...plain and simple! Alley had the most beautiful tit's I've ever seen. Now, she doesn't have the same shape. Allow me to enlighten you all, but a man's adimiration of tits are about shape. Yes, Alley also has and currently continues to have a fantastic ass, fantastic legs, fantastic hair (both upstairs and downstairs), gorgeous eyes, and very beautiful facial features; even great toenails...and yes, she still has a great rack. FYI: I'm not a fan of fake tits or implants. With all that said, I merely commented on her past pics showing the tits I simple groveled at and salivated with pavlovian desire as any true tit-man would. He recent posting of the past pics just reminded me of what used to turn me on so much. This has nothing to say about any medical or health decisions one makes to better their lives and welfare. I completely understand and RESPECT that! Flash again...Alley is a softcore porno model...isn't she? Playboy mag = softcore porno -- Playboy model = softcore porno model -- softcore porno model = turn on...and Alley...... = one hell of a turn on!!! On a crude note, porno (any kind) makes my dick hard -- nothing more...nothing less. Reality check may be in order. Past and present. Relax and losen up gentleman. Need I remind you this is a softcore "porno" site. Alley this is not a disparagement on you. You don't have to justify yourself to anyone, least me. I believe you know where I'm coming from. Keep up the great work. I look forward to groveling over you for years to come.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So...
Msai feels better now that he's gotten his feelings out?
Msai would like us to know that he doesn't like fake breasts.
Msai would like us to know that he prefers Alley's breasts before the implants.
Msai would like us to know that Alley is a soft-porno model.
Msai respects Alleys decision for the surgery, but it's not the point.
Msai doesn't know Alley, and visa-versa, so....it's ok to make callous comments?

Comment:
Does anyone really think that Alley would've had the surgery if she didn't have to?
So if Alley had breast cancer and had the surgery, would you still make the comment?
Would you tell a 350-pound person that he's fat...because you don't think he knows?
Will this subject raise it's head again in some future time...probably. Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rarely post here, but I did post on this topic just before Alley had her surgery in terms of options that Alley could, and she later noted that she already done so, explore. Alley had to make a decision that was in the interest of her long time health and did not go under the knife until she had attempted other means to end her back pain.

I can understand Msai's point about Alley's original breasts being spectacular, as they were, but let's face it, Alley Baggett is a human being and she is more than the sum of her parts. If I were to stick strictly to my "preference", I would not be interested in any woman that did not have a huge bubble butt—e.g., Esther Baxter, Vida Guerra, et al—, but there is something about Alley that transcends physical features. I cannot remember where or what photo it was—I have so many of Alley now—, but there was a face shot of Alley that caught my attention a few years ago that prompted me to look further the join this site. Even in this most recent photo set, AM Fix, Alley's natural beauty comes through; just look at picture #000018659, which is also one of the rare shots where her Asian features are prominent. How many women in their early 30s still have that kind of cuteness working for them?

I would be lying if I stated here that the "old girls" were not a perfect pair in a world where far too many models, glamour and nude models in particular, are silicon Barbies. Alley's breasts were 100% natural and that is something I find more appealing; fake breasts offend me. Alley is for all intents and purposes still completely natural as her breasts are still all her; she had reduction surgery so I doubt that she has implants as mt suggested.

In all though, I am a fan of Alley because she is a naturally beautiful woman and appears to be a genuinely sweet person. From the few videos have watched and, on the rare occasion when I read the forums, postings I have seen from her indicate to me that Alley is more than just a model, but in fact an intelligent, outgoing woman. Before I read a single thing from her or saw a single video, that pleasant personality seemed to come through in her photos. I am a fan of that (perceived) package, Alley's breasts are icing on a delicious cake.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't read all the posts on this thread yet....but for now....all I want to say to everyone who dislikes my boobs or prefers them the other way is:

SUCK MY DICK and all I expect to hear back is:

WITH PLEASURE!

j/k

seriously though, IT'S ALL GOOD!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh, MT, you did not carefully read my response. Alley had a reduction. She has no implants. She is not fake!!!

Lawson, you said it best: "Alley's tit's are the icing on a very beautiful cake." Even now...ALL real...just reduced.

Alley, as you "expected"...my response is, Not just with pleasure, but with great pleasure." 'Cause I know (We all know) you are way far from having a dick! j/k also. ...and it's not all good.....YOU are magnificent.

...and yes, I do like your old tits better.....BUT, I mentioned that your new tits are also great -- same nipples -- same areolas. Turn on is equal, just not to same degree. New ones are absent the "tear drop" shape. The old ones used to fit really well in the palm of her hand when she used to hold her tits for the camera. New ones cannot "rest" into the palm of her hand like the old ones could. Alley is the best at "holding" her tits for a turn on shot for the camera. Alley actually "holds" her tits -- grabs her tits. Other chicks just place their hands on their tits for an attempted turn on shot. Even her new "girls" are held by Alley...with her hand completely grabbing as much tit as she can. WOW! She's the best at doing that...old or new.

Alley, I'm telling you straight man...those other dudes can worship your personality and spirit and all the other abstract things they want. I'm am wholehardily sure you, as a person inside, are equally as beautiful as your physically self. I sincerely believe you know they are reading way too much into all this, and I further believe you know what I mean and from where I stand. If I had the opportunity and in my fantasies, I am not going to F--- your personality...I would want to F--- your tits and every other physical place I could. As I'm sure your man does when he's doing you. And for you more sensitive types....when your man is "making love" to you...there! Alley, in listening to some of your interviews and watching you for years, I believe there are times (perhaps more than not) where you just want to get F'd and not made "love to." Time and place for everything, dudes!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All this tits talk makes me want to go to my local strip club and hug some boobies. LOL.

"Give the gift of happiness. Have you hugged your favorite boobies lately?" Laughing


So Alley, didn't you say something about getting together for dinner this week? woot Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlleyBaggett wrote:


SUCK MY DICK


Ready!!!!! I'm first!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

msal wrote:
Ahhh, MT, you did not carefully read my response. Alley had a reduction. She has no implants. She is not fake!!!



Really? ah ah ah ah ah....I think you never saw a pair of bobs in your real life.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ciccio wrote:
msal wrote:
Ahhh, MT, you did not carefully read my response. Alley had a reduction. She has no implants. She is not fake!!!



Really? ah ah ah ah ah....I think you never saw a pair of bobs in your real life.

ciccio


Well ciccio, either you are wrong or Alley is a liar. Alley has stated many times that her breasts are real and she just had a reduction. People who have a reduction don't get impants.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay....CAN WE PLEASE PUT THIS BOOB TALK TO REST?????? I thought we have in the past.....BUT I guess not.

ANYWAY, I still HAVE NOT READ any of these posts.....but I basically know what this is about.

This is my thoughts and hopefully with my thoughts everyone can respect me as a model and as a woman a bit more and REALLY put this topic to rest.

OKAY....here goes:

First off, I agree with the ones who say they prefer my boobs how they were before I had my reduction. I prefer the tear drop look and I like some hanging just not a lot. What I don't agree with is....how they were looking and feeling 10 years into my career as a model. Those pictures you saw of me in the latest Erotica photo set is a set that was taken at least 10 years ago. YES, back then.....the boobs were perfect.....which is why I didn't do anything to change them back then. 10+ years later.....things change.....and I'm sorry but I'm not going to continue to model for another 2+ years with boobs going nowhere but South really fast. No. I want healthier, younger looking and feeling boobs. Aside from the cosmetic reasons for wanting my boobs to be different....there were the health issues. I wanted to stop having back pain and discomfort. When I went in for the reduction....I had them lifted. Aside from them feeling so nice and full and extremely firm but EVER so soft..... (which is why I squeeze them so hard in some shots-because they feel sooooo good to have a handful) I feel the look is too full looking. I would prefer to have the teardrop shape of before. So one day...I will have them redone to have that same nice teardrop shape I had before.....but obviously without the teardrop about to fall off. The thing is....when I do it....It will be because It'll be something that I want to do for myself and not for everyone else. For now, I wish that everyone could appreciate and love the new me who is filled with a new sense of confidence which is clear in my recent photos. I've showed more of my body than ever before......because I feel good about myself and I really feel younger than ever. So please respect that....and just be thankful that I am here allowing you to have a little piece of me.

All the other petty things.....shouldn't matter.....it's the overall BIGGER picture that matters and means more than anything.


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p.s. you can STILL "suck my dick" J/k
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said Alley-girl. When I started this thread, I was speaking like some dudes do.....straight from the horny-heart of the the one-eyed "lizard." You know how most guys are...we're just horn-dogs! You, Alley, just simply bring the "lizard" out in dudes period. I have, as I can presumptiously state for most dudes, nothing but respect for you as a model and person. I blamed you for bringing out those pent up feelings 'cause of the archive pics of you........damn, girl ! I'm a bit on the older side (no, not that old) and I have no problem with what nature does to beautiful woman...meaning the gravity thing. I thought (and think) it's equally beautiful. As you age, I feel you are like fine wine and are simply getting more beautiful as you were beautiful back then for that time period. Youre beautiful now for this time period. I look forward to your continuing growth and your continuing ability to give me a "rise" and salute to you...your "parts," and your confidence to allow us to be a part of your life. Next....your ASS! HOT DAMN! (younger or older).
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LULZ me like the new alley boobies and old.

I also like her apparent love for bangs now. its a good look honey Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow ... a year later and the same BS going on.

http://forums.alleybaggett.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=41694&highlight=#41694

I am with you 100 % msal. Be careful though , you posts might get deleted. Free speech is not welcome here by Alley's so called fans. In my opinion a real fan speaks his mind and is not just another "YES" man on Alley's nuts.

Better stop now before I get drawn and quartered by the commi's Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL

I'm sure the boob subject will be revisited again by another newbie member or fan who haven't been following the previous postings. LOL.

No point in deleting because it'll just get a new topic again in the future, and some poor guy is going to wonder why he got yelled at.

Watchout ! The commi's are coming!!!


I might as well lock the thread, since everybody has probably said their peace of mind.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry I just have to post on GEORGE'S comment. First of all.....you are just pissed because I didn't appreciate your rudeness and I got rid of some of your comments in the past. I thought you were gone for good....but apparently NOT.

Anyway...I no longer delete posts....they will be moved to hidden area within the forum instead IF the posts are rude or hurtful in anyway. You can come here and state your honest opinion about my site/pics....whatever. You can say that you love them....you can say that you don't. I don't care. You can express your thoughts here as long as you do it with some respect for me.....and with some class. Don't come here being a RUDE inconsiderate prick.....because no one has the time for people like that around here.....especially ME. I know I know I know....a forum....should be a forum where people can bitch and speak their minds however they want to. That's true BUT this is MY forum.....I am a person and I do have feelings. I will run my forum however I want......and not feel like if I have to do it like it's always been done. Like I said.....bitch all you want.....just don't do it in a way....that makes you seem like if you are immature and idiotic.

Have some FUCKING class and speak your mind. That's all. Very Happy

George....I thought by now...you would have found some model out there that you really do like....and enjoy going to her forum.....and spending your time on something like that. Why come here if you think the way I run things...suck. I mean....must you keep being a fly?
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