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YDB Rank: Senior Member
Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 207
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:50 am Post subject: Gallery: Wild N' Alley |
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Alley: Quote: | Have you ever fantasized what it would be like to get ravished from a wildly sexy woman and play with animalistic positions? WILD N' ALLEY... will have you beg' n to be WILDLY IN... Come take a ride to the WILD SIDE! |
I'm sure that I am not alone, in having erotic fantasies, inspired by "Sheena, Queen of the Jungle." However, Hollywood never took it to its obvious "sexual & sensual" conclusion.
I would love a feral - feline type woman ravage me any which way she choose. Thrashing around, all over the place, with this woman, would be an experience that would dominate my memories forever.
"...but the images that makes me cream in my undies everytime I see it is..." are 00017786, 00017789, 00017791, 00017794 & 00017798.
And I love 00017803 (Wild N' Beautiful), 00017804 (Wild N' Innocent),
& 00017787 (Wild N' Sexy).
Please continue making great works of art, with your "Wild N' Creative" ways.
Sincerely,
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Thor Rank: Casual
Joined: 30 Jan 2008 Posts: 42
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: |
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I wish I shared your sentiment YDB, but these recent sets have been really bad.
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I can appreciate the time and effort spent with trying to come up with new ideas, but I feel the images are going in the wrong direction. The make-up is clown-ish looking and doesn't work well. A few of the images looked a bit scary. I am just giving my opnion and not try to be cruel or mean. Again, this is just my opinion and the usual "this is the best set ever" or "this is my new favorite set" crew will write their usual comments and all will be well. It just seems that no matter what is posted the forum members seem scared and/or reluctant to say anything negative. I can't believe that the usual posters like every set.
My reason for writing this is not cause trouble, but to simply state my opinion. I know there are a lot of members here, but it is the same few that post for every set. I wonder what the other members think. I really think the type of sets from 4-5 years ago were perfect. I would like to see more of the older style sets with the natural looking make-up. I am sure a lot of the other members would like that as well. Ok, I guess I will get ready for the usual posters to tell me I am being mean and if I don't like the pictures I should just leave. |
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misfit4100 Rank: Junior Member
Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Posts: 120
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Thor, In some ways I have to agree with you about the heavy makeup, and I have said so in the past. Alley has an incredible natural beauty that many never could have and never will have. I simply believe that her intrinsic beauty is enough.
That being said, there are a few things you cannot argue with, and they are as follows:
17795 - An inarguable point is that Alley's boobs are absolutely intoxicating. Alley, this profile shot of your amazing breasts with those incredible nipples and your flowing hair cascading around to frame your face... does it get any better than that I ask myself.
But alas...17791, 17793, 18794, 17801 - Maybe some of the nicest views of your warmest, and most inviting areas. (Perhaps I could hunker down and stay a while?)
And lest we think that Alley didn't put her all into her work.. Alley... In picture 17803 on your left hand... is that a little scatch that is bleeding a bit?... Come on people... this girl is pouring herself out here... she is risking life and limb for you. Can we afford my darling girl a little bit of makeup if she wants? For Pete's sake... let the girl have some make up!
lol Rock on Alley! |
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j3a Rank: Super Veteran

Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 1010
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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first of all, i would like to applaud you thor - for not only having the balls to state your unfavorable opinion of Alley's sets of late, but doing it with class. there have been members in the past whom have voiced their opinion with utter disrespect and downright rudeness...
these sets with ming wu have been a roller coaster ride for me - i have absolutely loved some of the sets, liked most of them, and then a couple... just ok for me.
i am a detail person - i pay attention to make-up, hair, outfits, sets, and lighting. and i have been a bit disappointed with the latter two regarding mr. wu's work...
however, i absolutely LOVE the ideas / themes that Alley has come up with for these sets. i think the make-up and outfits have worked well together. i appreciate the fact that Alley is always looking for ways to stir things up, and is willing to take risks in order to keep her site fresh and one of the best on the net!
i'm glad that Alley has decided to experiment with another photographer, and different looks - it was very refreshing... but i look forward to the return of harvey as well!
now for this set - Alley i loved it!
dalmations, and tigers, and leopards, and Alleycats!! they all bring out the animal in ME!!
i thought it was very sexy and exotic!
Alley is on the prowl, & i feel like a deer in the headlights i can't wait for the attack!
now use that ladder, and get back on your pedistal!!
love you, Alley!
thank you so much for all the hard work you do!! |
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YDB Rank: Senior Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Thor:
As to the motivations of those who choose to post or not post, I cannot speak for. I am sure that among those who don't post, you have many views.
Some don't post because they choose not to repeat what has been said, good or bad. Some don't post because they choose to just look at the content that is provided, and not speak on it. The individuals of the first two groups, stay or go, on their own merits.
I must admit, as a member of various model's websites, over the years, I have been like the individuals of the first two groups. Some of those websites, I am still a member of. Most of the others, I am not.
As of right now, I only express my views & opinions to one other model. I choose to interact with Alley & "this other model," because they are the only two whose creative attempts, inspire me to respond.
I'm sure that Alley, as well as the other forum members, those who choose to post, and those who don't, welcome other people's views. I do believe if you present yourself & your views, in the way you have provided, I don't think you have many issues with the other frequent responders, like myself.
From what I have experienced here, and in other similiar forums, those with negative views, get shouted down only if they are disrespectful to the model, or to the other posters.
As for me, I don't always respond on the the works that Alley creates. I respond when I am inspired to, which recently have more frequent, due to use of the new photographer. I usually find things in every gallery, I appreciate.
Alley tries different things. Some wish that she wouldn't stretch out so much, and stick with what has worked in the past. I too like her previous works. And sometime her creativity doesn't work as well I would like. But for me, she has hit mark well more than she has missed.
So that why I respond the way I do.
Cordially,
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AlleyBaggett Official Model

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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys....for the compliments!
It's okay if some of you don't really care for the new photographer. I guess you can say....Harvey has "grown" on you Anyway....I've never been one to say that I am changing photographers....or I am changing the direction of the pics....or anything like that. Trust me....Harvey will always be my main photographer and will always be the one to shoot 99% of my site's images. I love Harvey! I certainly am WAY MORE comfortable with him than anyone else....and that's why I've been loyal to him for sooooooooo long! I just like the idea of spicing things up a bit here or there.
Well...to tell you the truth I miss Harvey too : ) With all that said....I do have to say that I DO LOVE LOVE LOVE some of these sets and images that Ming has shot. I love them because they are SO different and unique and it's a different way to see me. The shots are theatrical...creative....and in some shots....VERY fierce! I think it's worth shooting some okay pics to find the ones that are FIERCE! Finding the ones that are fierce makes it all worth while.
Well that's my own opinion. Don't worry...I know you can't handle too much change in a year....so I'll be sticking with Harvey the rest of the year for the images. It will be my pleasure.
So I have good news for you....Harvey is kicking things off for us again beginning in MARCH.... YAY!! There are some beautiful shots that he's done. I hope you like them as much as I do.
XOXO
ALLEY
p.s. For everyone who doesn't care for these MING shots.... I have a question: What is it about the shots that you don't like, the makeup, the lighting, the clothes, props?? Thank you for your input. _________________ xoxoxo
ALLEY!
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hiccup Rank: Rookie

Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 59
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:50 am Post subject: |
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Well, I am on the fence, as well. I will be the first to admit that I like change, trying different things, and mixing it up a bit. But there are things that when I look at some of the pictures, I can't help but think, "Hmm, I wish her hair was like usual, and I wish the make-up wasn't so heavy..." I really like that leopard print bathing suit, and at times I wished we could get a regular model shot.
That being said, I think the problem a lot of people have is just wanting the "regular, ordinary" model shots. I think people are often intimidated by things that are a) new and b) artistic. Artistically speaking, I like the set. In some ways it reminds me of some wild super hero outfit or something like that. I like that. What didn't work for me was that the drab background didn't match the wildness of the outfit/poses.
It is one of those sets that would have been better "in the wild". One thing that I have noticed about many of Ming Wu's sets is that the color is washed out. I don't know if that is intentional, or the result of make-up, but I like to see the deeper tones of skin, usually.
By no means stop being adventurous and trying new things. If every set was a carbon copy of the one before with the same poses, angles, etc. it would be boring. there are going to be some sets that are less interesting to some people that other people will absolutely love. The important thing is that the photos display some facet of your personality. You've done a good job of showing that, and hopt that you continue to do so.
That being said, with Harvey back on board any sneak previews or hints about the months to come? |
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santiago Rank: Junior Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Like YDB I only respond when I am inspired to.
For the first time in a long time, I'm enjoying the webcam recaps better than the Skin sets. Whew! Alley is such a sexy lady. |
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nebraska Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 166
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Hi Alley
Okay, I have not made a comment on any of the last 9 sets that were shot by Ming. I have always in the past when giving my opinion and thoughts on a new set, quickly viewed the set, and found the shot, and then go back and enjoy everything I liked about the set and break it down. Okay, that being said and Alley asking for input from us about our thoughts as a whole. Pertaining to the lighting, sets, make-up and hair etc.......here are some of my thoughts on the entire series the last 3 months....................Okay, here we go................
I would like to first start off by saying, I am a huge Alley fan!!!!!!I have been a loyal member for about 3 1/2 yrs or so. Maybe closer to 4. I am a fan not only because of her raw beauty, but I think she is the best in the business when it comes to loungerie modeling. I think she is a pro's -pro!!! I think she has an absolutly great work ethic, a great eye for detail, thinks long and hard on what she envision's her set s to be. I think she is artistic, and has a great sense for new idea's and a very creative mind. She's the best!!!!!! That's what I love about you!!!!!!!!!
I think Alley had alot of great idea's concerning the last 9 sets. I think she worked long and hard on getting the outfits togeather and seeing a vision in her head on what she wanted the camera to capture and bring everything to life. That being said, in my opinion only, and that's what it is, just an opinion. Ming and his crew let Alley down big time. Clearly, not Alley and crew were on the same page and making on creating the vision and finished product to her high standards. Now, I don't think this is a fault of Alley. She did her job and did it well.
I think that 7 of the sets had absolutly no business what so ever being in the Skin Section. Those 7 sets would have been great in the Erotic Section. I could take 10 shots from each of those sets and convert them to B/W and they would have come off killer and worked great, for that section of her site. But the Skin Section is the bread and butter of her site. This is the section that is # 1 in all of our minds and what we look forward to the most. This is the section that Alley to put the most work into. This is the section that is going to keep new members becoming loyal members and keeping members for years and years. The reson for this is we can't wait to see the newest and latest shots of Alley. 7 of the last 9 sets had been a disappointment to me in the Skin Section, my opinion only.......
So, lets examine the reason's why so many of these sets just didn't work for me. I will commint on this 2 sets that were close to working and belonging in the Skin Section in a few, but first why 7 of them didn't work for me.
I know alot about photography. I also know the absolute # 1 rule of anything that I shoot. The # 1 rule of any photographer who is out there. Being either a amature or one of the best pro's in the world. And the most important rule to go by is LIGHTING IS EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!Lighting sets the mood, lighting sets the attitude, lighting shows off the models skin tones, lighting effects how comfortable the model feels. Lighting highlights the models strong points, Lighting sets the eyes of the viewer on how he first views the photo's. Lighting makes you get into the set and the theme immeditly. Lighting gives the viewer a sense in the beginning of comfort and enjoyment of things to come in the set. And so on and so on....LIGHTING IS EVERYTHING...From bringing the best out of the model. From bringing out the best of the set. From bringing out the best from the idea's for the set. From bringing out the creativity of the set. From making the viewer of the set eye's focus in and instantly get a feel and a comfort for the set. LIGHTING IS EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Lighting sets the mood. From as simple as natural outdoor light to bring out the natural and beauty of the skin tone or the dramatic effects lighting is used to create drama in studio shooting LIGHTING IS EVERYTHING..........The lighting in all 7 sets just did not work period. Where's the drama? These sets have a tone for drama. The lighting also made Alleys skin look horrible. None of her natural, beautiful skin is highlighted. Way to harsh for me, and on the verge of being very washed out. Alley has some of the most beautiful skin, and it shows through her images when photographed. But failed here. So, I didn't like the lighting.
Make-up and hair. Don't get me started!!! Lets just say I would rather not make a public commint on that. I have the utmost respect for Alley. I think I will just keep my opinions to myself on that one. But I will say, way over done. If Alley wants to know my reason's and what I really thought and break it down. Ask me and I will tell yoy exctly what I think. But I will just play it safe for the moment.
The backgrounds and sets? Don't get me started!!!!!
The outfits were great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The 2 sets that in my opinion were a close success. Though they didn't quite hit the mark to there full potential. I thought Dr. Feelgood and Basic Instinct were close but no cigar.
First Dr Feelgood. Loved the idea!!!!Loved the hair!!!!! Loved the outfit!!!! I thought this could have been one of your top sets over the years. Great insight, great creativity on wanting to do a 50's kind of feel to the old pin-up days. You also have the look and the beauty to pull this kind of set off. But this set came up short for me, because of a few reason's. The lighting was off!!! Again, didn't highlight or do your skin tone it's due justice. The background could have worked in this set. With the white's and reds in the outfit. But again came up short with the lighting. Could have taken it a step further. The make-up was just a little to heavy. From shot's that were taken from a distance it was just okay. The closeups though the makeup just overtook the beauty of your skin tones. But the lighting there again had alot of reason the makeup looked a little heavy. LIGHTING IS EVERYTHING!! The only other thing that I thought missed the mark in the set was the red chair. You were pulling off a 50's pin-up feel and using a modern day chair. Looked totally out of place and didn't work and took away from the theme of the overall 50's feel. The chair made me think instantly that it didn't belong. I think the use of a red chair as a prop was a great idea. But it should have been a chair with more of a look from the era. A 50's retro cafe stool with a red top or something. Would have keep with the theme of the set.
Basic Instinct was another that almost hit it's mark. This was the only set out of the 9 that I thought that the lighting was right on for the background and the set. It set the mood of the set perfectly. But the lighting on your straight on shots was yet again off. It did no justice to your skin tones and it made your makeup look to heavy and pasty and was on the verge of washing your skin out. But I loved the idea and the outfit and the overall feel for the set.
Okay, let me sum this up and bottom line everything.
I look at the last 9 sets and 7 of them didn't work for me at all. 2 being borderline. Lighting was a major factor why sets came up short. LIGHTING IS EVERYTHING!!!!!!!Make-up and hair, and backrounds. Again don't get me started.
Alley you did your job and you did it well. I thought that the poses and some of your facial expressions were great. Like I said you are a pro and the best. I learn so much from you and your craft you have know idea how much I have studied and learned from your work over the years. I applude you for being creative and wanting to push it from time to time. You have succeeded in the past and you will continue to succed in the future.
The only thing I will say to sum everything up is this............
The Skin Section is everything to your success on your site and business. That's where the new and fresh material is brought out to you viewing public. For me, you are one of the most BEAUTIFUL, SEXY, and STUNNING woman around. You are so fresh and beautiful. You come across at your best when you keep the makeup on the more soft and natural side. Your beauty and your beautiful skin tone with those perfect eye's and lips don't have to be brought out with heavy makeup. Alley your beauty, is more of the natural outdoor, girl next door that every man on earth dreams about. That is you and that is your beauty. You were born and blessed with these great qualities. These are the qualities and the reasons that I look forward to seeing what new shot's in the Skin Section that you come up with. When you have it, work it. This is where your money is. This is why we are here month after month. Your natural beauty. Your playfullness, your sexyness, the naughty side of you, the innocent side of you. Everyone's fantacy. YOU HAVE IT ALL!!!!. That's what you need to keep selling. You can come up with great idea's and be as creative as you want. You have proved that over and over again in past sets.
If you want to really get out of the box from time to time. Either put it in the Erotica Section or set up an entirely new section on the site. But if you wanted to do something really off the wall and push the boundries and put it in the Skin Section. That would be great from time to time. But I would just throw in a set like that in here and there between some of your money sets. I wouldn't put togeather alot of sets consistently. Like the last 9 sets. Break it up and throw a set in here and there, over a period of other set themes and looks. I mean going outside of the box once in a while is a great idea. It also allows you to have some fun and really get into your creative side. And you should continue to do so. You have alot of great ideas. I would love seeing what you come up with. Since photography is an art form of expression , let it all out here and there. I am all for it.
Thank You Alley for all that you do for us. You are the best and I will be here for many years to come. Even though the last 9 sets didn't hit the mark for me. Photography is an art. I know that many people out there loved some of this work. Some didn't. That's okay. We all see art in a different way. That's the way it should be. I deal with it everyday. But, it's your natural beauty that gets everyone one the same page here. That's what you have got to sell the most. You got it all Alley and I look forward to what you have in store for us in the coming months and years!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL AND STUNNING!!! And A TOTAL PRO!!!!!YOU ARE THE BEST!!!
Blessings
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AlleyBaggett Official Model

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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Okay....i haven't read Nebraska's post BUT WOW!!!!!!!!!
All I can say is WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
p.s. J3 and I both know how much you REALLY love the past 9 sets so I'm sure we'll all hear about it.... (sarcastic comment) _________________ xoxoxo
ALLEY!
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AlleyBaggett Official Model

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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Okay...I'm back. I wasn't going to be back and comment until I have an afternoon free to read Nebraska's post but I couldn't resist. I feel very emotional right now....for some reason
Anyway....first I wanted to share my FAVS from WILD N ALLEY. Here goes...
17778 (THAT'S THE SHOT!)
17782
17785
17797
17799
17802
Okay....my comment on the background is...the background in WILD N OUT does match because the color matches....it's a natural woven fabric and it has some texture in it. If it would have been a background that had more going on that what was in it....then the whole thing would have been too much. The fact that is was a solid color made me be the one thing that stood out. I think the one thing that MING has done is create good/cool/interesting backgrounds. At least that's been my fav thing. Anyway...I respect your thoughts and everyone elses and I thank you for sharing them. It helps me give you the best of what you like....always....rather than taking chances on stuff that I know you don't like.
Alright on to Nebraska...I finally read your post....and thank you for the nice compliments. I have a question for everyone: Were my pictures SOOOOO perfect before that you feel you have to put these MING pictures in the same standard? Did you/Have you always looked at my images in a dissecting kind of way? I mean...have you always looked at all the details..every little thing in the shots...or is it only until now? Just wondering... Well Nebraska of mine....I understand your point of view and sorry none of these sets have done it for you. I guess I shouldn't try anything TOO crazy anymore....or if I do....it will be in the Erotica section. That is a good point. Even though....I agree with you on some of the things that you've said....I still have to say that my opinion is that I still LOVE some of the shots from each set!!!! I understand that this site isn't for me...it's for men...and so...that's where I think the difference of opinion lies. I think guys prefer to see their fav girl looking like a "pretty" natural sexy woman than a theatrical artistic model. I understand that.
Thank you for your input. _________________ xoxoxo
ALLEY!
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j3a Rank: Super Veteran

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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Alley, you know i look at and enjoy your photos for all of their details. You, of course get the most attention, but after i bask in your beauty for a while, i like to enjoy everything else that is going on in the photo (i.e. backgrounds, outfits, props)
as i have stated before, when i first signed up for your site, yes - it was just for your beauty and your beautiful body... but over the years i have come to appreciate everything in each shoot.
i do agree with nebraska on a few points... one being that i feel the erotica section would have been a better avenue for a few of these recent shoots. the second point is that it might have been better to release these shoots more at random... sprinkle them throughout the year along with your "regular" harvey shoots. maybe all these in a row were just a bit overwhelming for some fans?
and yes, your skin section probably is your "bread and butter" as nebraska put it... but that depends on how YOU view it, Alley. of course you are here to make money - this site is your lively-hood, it pays your bills and it puts food in your mouth. but if all you were concerned about was making money, money, money - i think you would only concentrate on that one section, and your shots would turn to a more risque or even a dirtier theme in order to bring in more members who look for that sort of stuff. but you don't do that, do? you work so hard on your entire site. you are constantly improving sections and adding new FREE sections (i.e. this forum, blog, games) that enhance our experience as fans. of course there are other items which do add to your net gains like keen and selling your outfits, but overall, i believe your main concern is making this .net experience the absolute best, period.
i appreciate all you do - as i'm sure most of your fans do. your site is just that: your site. it maybe for us to enjoy, but it is also for you to enjoy. i'm glad that you take chances and let your creative juices flow i am an artist at heart, and everyone views art with different eyes. it's good that you ask for out thoughts and input, which may alter your decisions in the future. but please continue to explore your own ideas and put them out there for us, because many of us enjoy seeing more than just tits and ass, and don't care if your hair is "too wild" or your make-up is "too crazy". we enjoy seeing you and your visions. |
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mt Rank: Veteran

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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Alley, I do hope you will continue to experiment with your photo shoots. I love the different looks you come up with. It's always fun to look at your archives and be surprised at seeing something you didn't see before.
Again, I'm really not trying to kiss butt (unless you want me to).. but I totally agree with you on the background. It focuses the attention on you. For me, this is what enhances your outfit and look in pix 777-78, 777 is my fave. Some people don't look good wearing leopard but you really look good in them. I also love your look in 802 and 804. I can totally see these in fashion mags. You look outlandish and yet, your natural beauty is still obvious.
Yes, there are some Harvey stuff I didn't like,i.e., Generation X. But it's easier to find faults than it is to find the beauty in something. I would rather try and find the gold. _________________ In a perfect world, you get all Alley, all the time. |
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AlleyBaggett Official Model

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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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My one and only request is that everyone respect everyone else's view and opinion on these past 9 sets....just as you would want others to respect your own.
Same goes for me.....
I think everyone in here pretty much did an okay job at letting me know how they feel without being too dam rude about it....but in the future...just as a small little note....when you think about letting me know how you feel in private or not...please do so with some respect for me and my work and show me some consideration for my own feelings. You can always tell someone that you don't like something...politely. After all the images are of me.... When I say this....I'm not really talking to everyone.
but I DO still love everyone.... and you know what J3....YOU ARE RIGHT!!! If this was all about money for me and nothing else....then I would have stepped it up a notch or two and have done the more naughtier stuff on my site like some other models have. This site DOES have to be fun for me too....and it really is.
You know...you are here because you are looking for an adventure. You are perhaps wanting to board the roller coaster of passion and lust. That is what I believe I've given you through my images.
Next up from Harvey are shots that have the following theme.
white fabric blowing in the wind
Mexican theme
Indian theme
Crocodile Dundee theme
Lingerie on bed
with hand cuffs
in latex outfit
in lingerie
All natural looking makeup and normal hair
I hope you enjoy the new sets...NOW STOP COMPLAINING!!!! SMACKKKKKKK
 _________________ xoxoxo
ALLEY!
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YDB Rank: Senior Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Alley:
I really like how thread is going. I get the impression that many people believe that those constantly who give you compliments are your "mindless loyal drones." As everyone can now see, we are far from that.
I happen to like the fact that you have done 9 consecutive galleries, with a different photographer. I believe the only way we can see the vision of both you & the new photographer, is to see them in this way.
Again, I will say that I applaud your attempts to "expand your horizons" with your galleries.
Even the best in the business, of any industry or career, don't always hits the mark. Tiger Woods doesn't win every tournament, but it doesn't diminish his greatness. Michael Jordan didn't lead his teams to the NBA championship, every year, but that didn't diminish his greatness. So the fact that every Skin gallery, doesn't always work, doesn't diminish my views of Alley's creative attempts.
I have the same views as Alley, in the sense, that there are some things in every gallery, that are worthy of praise & appreciation.
Honestly, I think it is impossible to have an absolutely "perfect" gallery.
The Erotica galleries should not the only place that "experiemental" ideas should be expressed. I am a big believer that any artist should take chances, as long as those chances are inspired by an evolutionary creativity, not because a financial motivation.
I'm sure that if Ming Wu had as many opportunities that Harvey Butts has, in shooting with you, you two would develop a better synchronicity, with each other. But even with his limited opportunity with you, I am glad to see these different sides of you.
Sincerely,
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Thor Rank: Casual
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I think everyone in here pretty much did an okay job at letting me know how they feel without being too dam rude about it....but in the future...just as a small little note....when you think about letting me know how you feel in private or not...please do so with some respect for me and my work and show me some consideration for my own feelings. You can always tell someone that you don't like something...politely. After all the images are of me.... When I say this....I'm not really talking to everyone |
Alley was this comment directed towards me? |
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mooart Rank: Rookie

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Alley, just a short comment on this set. I like shots 17785, 17790, and 17797, however my favorite is 17800. The teasing way you are pulling the fabric away from your sweet spot amplifies the rest of your sexiness in this pose. I look forward to seeing more new sets from you, especially some lingerie themed sets. |
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nebraska Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 166
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Hi Alley
I am going to respond to some of the questions that you asked to have some feed from. I think that they are all very good questions. So let's get started.
Ouestion #1
Were my pictures soooo perfect before that you feel that you have to put these Ming pictures in the same standard?
Well yes!!! Not only do I put these Ming pictures to the same standards as Harvey. But you should always put your photographers to the highest stardards yourself!!!! This is your business, your livelyhood, your product that you are putting out to the public and the world. I mean you pay very primium and serious money for your photographers. You should always expect the highest standards from them with the money you are paying out for thier services. You set the very highest standards for yourself and your vision and creativity for the sets. So you should and expect the highest standards from your photographers to bring out the absolute best to make the sets come alive in print.
You have always produced consistent and great work over the years. Because your standards have been high. On the most part Harvey has delievered for you. Sure not all sets have been perfect. Some have been perfect. It is very difficult to produce the absolute perfect sets. To do that it takes hours of prep for that to happen. I know ,I am in the middle of trying to produce 3 perfect sets for someone at the moment. I have the first 1 done. It took between 35 to 40 hrs of work. After getting the outfit, invisioning the set, setting the theme. Countless hours of shooting and lighting angles. Finding the exact way of shooting to make the dress and the subject come to life and in very very best way. Charting everything, making diagrams and putting togeather shooting boards and story boards. Having someone else shooting long range with a wide angle so to have reference points seeing how the shots should be shot with an overall view of lighting positions and the set and the models position as well. Also, the positions and angles of the photographer when shooting. Hours and hours of experiments and over 800 shots to find and get it all absolutly perfect. Putting it all togeather in a binder and getting ready for the day it will be shot for real. Been working on the 2nd set and going through all the above process and shooting everything for the shooting and story binder this again this week. And then getting started on the 3rd set and doing the whole process al over again for that set.
It takes a very long time and alot of very hard work with 2 other people to get togeather the perfect set. It's all trial and error in your prep work. But that what needs to be done to get the absolutly perfect set. Unless you get very lucky and things come togeather perfectly in all aspects. That's why I say Harvey has delievered a few perfect sets. But absolutly perfect sets only happen that way in a blue moon.
But Alley, you don't have the luxury of being able to always produce the perfect sets. You try and put togeather about 12 sets or 3 months worth on average in a day or 2 of shooting. And that is great. I know what a couple of days of shooting costs. Very expensive with quality photographers and locations. So, you pay premium money for the best shots and highest standards you can. In a perfect world, you would probibly love to have the time to put togeather the absolute perfect sets. As seen from above. But the 3 sets I am getting togeather for a client will take about 100 hrs or so of total work from beginning to end. You would have to have Bill Gates money to be able to do that for 12 sets every 3 months. Or charge us members $50.00 bucks a month to produce the absolute perfect sets time in and time out. But what you do have is Harvey over the years, who by the way is an excellent photographer. has given you high quality work, and produced a few perfect sets and 90% absolutly great sets. I have only seen about 10 or 12 sets over the years that I thought Harvey totally missed the mark. That is a great record for the over the time period he has been shooting. Why such a great record and consistancy?????Because Harvey, has high stardards and alot of talent and it shows in his work. I didn't see the same quality or standards in Mings work that's all.
Ouestion # 2
Did you/have you always looked at my images in a dissecting kind of way?
Well, I know that I always do. But not just with you Alley. I do that with every print that I look at. Just my nature and that's what I do. So I am probibly the wrong person to ask on this subject. I have a professional eye and it is just a natural habit and reaction to do that. But what is important in every photograph are the 3 basic rules.............1) What is the theme of the shot???........2) Where does the focus of attention in the shot lie?????.............3) Does the shot simplify????? Those are the 3 rules for every photographer to go by when setting up or taking a shot. And they shoul always be prevelent in every shot. But, then there is the trickey spot in evey photograph that seperates the men from the boys. The pro's from the amature's. The great photograhers from the so-so photographers. And that is rule #4) EXPRESSION OF THE UNIVERSAL THEME OF THE SHOT!!!!!!! That's what seperates a great shot from just a okay shot or good shot. And Lighting is everything when it comes to hitting the mark with a universal theme as well as background and mood and if being shot outdoors or indoors the surrounding aspects in wich the subject is being brought to life. Making the suject and the print come to life and jumping into the viewers eye's and mind.
But yes, I do dissect everything I see. But I am sure most your viewers are just wanting to enjoy your shots and see your great work and maybe they don't dissect everything like I do. But they enjoy the high standards that you have been producing year in and year out.
Question # 3
Have you always looked at all the details....Every little thing in the shot's....or is till now?
Well I guess I already have answered this question with most my repones from the previous questions. Every little detail is absolutly important if your goal is to produce the very best image that you possibly can. Overlooking a small detail or 2 can be the difference from shooting a good shot to shooting an absolutly perfect great shot. You pay alot of attention to detail in your sets the majority of times in your sets Alley. That's what makes you the pro that you are. The details matter to you. That's why I enjoy your work. Can we always be a little more awhere of the smallest details? Hell yes and that goes for me and every other photographer and model or anyone with a creative endevor. I'am alwys reminding myself not to overlook the smallest details. Sometimes I forget or get a little lazy about that from time to time. So I always put a post-it note around an area that I am shooting that merly says.....Remember the small details......
Okay anyway that is just some of my input to some of the questions that you had. I hope I answered them okay for you and you can see where I am kinda coming from.
If you want any examples of what I said about the sets that I thought Harvery hit absolutly perfectly in my opinion. Or the 10 or 12 sets that I thought he didn't hit the mark on. Let me know and I will list those sets and post those for you.
But all in all, You set your standards high. You should expect nothing less from the photographers that you hire and pay very high wages for shoots to. All in all Harvey has delievered time and time again. I think Ming has talent. I think that Ming is a great photographer in his envirorment and expertise. But, I don't think he has the ability to capture your beauty and inner soul and personality like Harvey does. But, if I had to make a recommendation to someone I would say go with Harvey hands down. Not that I am more used to seeing Harvery's work over Mings. I have the ability to see alot of what Ming is about just through the photographs that he has displayed. A part of his porfolio has been displayed over the last 3 months. Like I said, I think he is a good photographer. But in my opinion Harvey is a much better photographer. Harvey makes you jump off the screen. Ming doesn't ....Bottom line....
Blessings
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AlleyBaggett Official Model

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Wow...you are DEEP with your photography Nebraska. That's good. That shows passion. Well....I try not to get too deep with my shooting as a model or a producer when I do the sets for SKIN. I try to take the laid back work hard....have fun kind of attitude. Yeah there is something about Harvey and I that just clicks in front of the camera. He makes me feel like it's okay to play, have fun and be as creative with my poses as possible. Harvey has had over 10 years experience in glamour beauty type of shooting and I was MING's first attempt to ever shooting sexy nude stuff. Like I said before....MING has many years experience shooting high fashion models with their clothes on....and shooting them for editorials.
I also want everyone to realize that my heart goes into this site, my emotions go into this site....and if they really didn't then I wouldn't really care what some of you said expressing your dislikes for the newer sets...I wouldn't be defending them. My heart and emotions/feelings is what drives me to work harder and do my best. The money that I make from my site just helps fund my hobby and love of modeling and being the sex kitten that I love to be. Being a sex kitten is in my nature. My love for art and doing creative things with my face (expressions), body (posing) and etc. is my drive for my site. So Nebraska, please stop bringing up the bread and butter thing or the premium money thing...hearing that over and over is such a turn off for me. Please don't kill the vibe....for me. I know you are only trying to help and etc. but saying too much can sometimes be too much.
Thor what I said was not directed towards you.
Thanks YDB for you kind remarks and for your uplifting spirit and compliments!
Thanks to everyone else for trying to keep my spirits up.
XOXO
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chico Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 270
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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way to go guys. How about some comfort food, Alley, king crab mac and cheese, strawberry shortcake, and Irish coffee. remember new coke, it didn'nt work. so they brought back the original(they subbed corn sweetner for sugar though) Just let it roll.
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AlleyBaggett Official Model

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:08 am Post subject: |
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You're so funny Chico!
I LOVE comfort food. I'm from the South so all that comfort food is YUMMY to me
So is the ALLEY n HARVEY team like a Classic Coke?
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ALLEY!
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kriss_lea Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 241
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:54 am Post subject: |
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Alley . . . YOU ARE WAY BETTER THAN CLASSIC COKE! It should only matter to you(for comfort) on who the does the shoots. I sure someone will try to disagree, but ANYONE can take GREAT photos or videos with a subject as BEAUTIFUL as YOU!!! |
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