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[Frostee1618]

Hey MBEAL, where were you when the prosecution was looking for witnesses in the Michael Jackson trial? I know you've got to have some pictures & video of MJ sticking it to the little boys, Right? Or maybe you were one of the little boys, Right? Just kiddin' (no pun intended)

None of us KNOW anything about MJ, what he has done, who he has done, or his kids(hell, look at him, if you didn't know who he was you wouldn't think he was African-American either).
And opinions are like assholes... just about everyone has one. And if ifs were fifths we'd all be drunk.

Let's just hope we've heard the last of Jacko and his problems with kids, and that everyone involved has learned something from this.

Peace Up,
Ted
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[mbeal78]

The dude is a freak!!! He's not right in the head. Look what he did in Germany dangling that kid over the railing. The man and I use that word loosly needs to be locked away in a major mental health facility possibly in Vienna Austria where he can be examined by a entire team of doctors. He needs to be druged up and put away for the rest of his natural born life.

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mbeal78

[luvleeone]

Wow! What a hot topic.

I followed the case as well and even went to a MJ site where they posted all of the transcripts for people to read. And honestly? The prosecution did not meet the standard of beyond a resonable doubt. I commend the jury for looking past Jacko's weirdness and rendering the proper verdict. You have to look past personal prejudices when you're in that jury room and I think that's what they did... Especially since juror #1 and the old 79 year old juror felt that Michael is not only weird, but could be a pedo. I think the jury was courageous.

I hear the prosecutor had a vendetta from hell against Jacko and that he shouldn't have brought the case. From what I'm hearing, Sneddon (the prosecutor) knew he had a weak case, but prosecuted it anyway.

With over 100 search warrants served, yet NO credible evidence brought against Jacko, that jury had no choice but to acquitt according to the law. You just can't convict someone based off of weirdness. I remember when the world was ready to convict Paula Poundstone, when she didn't molest her children. I think it's prudent for all to look past the media and get the facts about any case, before we condemn someone in the court of public opinion. Especially when we have crazed media pundits like Nancy Grace on CNN and Diane Dimond on Court TV. Those two interjects their OPINION instead of reporting FACTS. That behavior is absolutely dangerous. The Jackson case resembled the Salem Witch Hunts. Never do we want to repeat that history again.

My 2 cents!
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[jelly]

[AlleyBaggett]

I agree with eveyone....a little.

luvleeone, you're so cute.

Very interesting views on this topic.

Rick Cage was telling me how bad it was here in LA a few years back during the riots.
That's something else to take into consideration.

Anyway....thanks for the posts...and thoughts.
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[mbeal78]

Well Alley,....

MJ"s judgment will come when he dies. I don't believe for one second he didn't do anything wrong.

lol
mbeal

[AlleyBaggett]

MBeal....why does it seem that most black people are for MJ? Is it really a racial thing? I guess what I mean is...are they standing by him because he's African American?

Just wonderin what you and Tyger think....since he is standing by him.
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[mbeal78]

Hey Alley,...

In my opinion yes I think it is. I can't speak for the black race but I know enough about history,...I plan on teaching it someday to form that opinion. Bottom line everyone has to admit MJ is wierd. It is not normal in society to sleep with boys. I mean the Ancient Greeks used to do stuff like that. This dude was worped way back in childhood. I think black folks see a high profile black celebirty on trial and feel it's just another black person getting railroaded by the system. Where was the protest when Snoop was on trial. He was found innocent too. I love Snoop by the way. I don't think the criminal justice system works. I think the the aquital of Jackson, Kobe and OJ is some form of apeasement for those post civil war years of discrimination opposed on blacks. If it was a white guy sleeping with children and a celeb. Well,..they would go to jail. Hey I think Robert Blake is guilty of murder by the way. Yes,..I think some black folks support him cus they share race. If they loved him so much,...why aren't they buying his albums?

LOL
Love you Alley!!!
mbeal78

[Frostee1618]

Alley & MBeal,

PLEASE, don't get it twisted, I am a Black man & I don't stand by MJ. He might be guilty as SIN, it's just that in THIS case the evidence wasn't there. I can't speak for Tyger, but I think that's what he was saying too. The burden of proof is on the prosecution, and they had no case, especially when they had to know that their clients were known con-artists.
Alley & MBeal, you are right SOME Blacks will stick with a Black accused of a crime no matter what, just as SOME whites will stick by their own no matter what, but if you looked at all of those CRAZY-ASS FANs that camped out outside the courtroom & Neverland, you saw whites, blacks, orientals, & whatever. The majority of Michael's fanbase is probably not even black. He's more popular in Europe & Asia than he is here.
As far as the criminal justice system working or not, I don't know, take a look INSIDE the jails. They are full. And they are not full of white people. Celebraties will ALWAYS get a break. Black, White, Yellow, Brown, or Blue. and not just in L.A. Look at R. Kelly, he's on video tape with an under-aged girl, & they still haven't gotten him in the courtroom. It's not because he's black, it's because he's rich. Money Talks & Bullshit Runs a Marathon.

Peace & Love
TED
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[mbeal78]

Good Point Frostee

[tyger]

Hey Alley,

I'm not exactly standing behind Michael Jackson per se. I think I'm kinda standing up for Michael because bashing him has become so popular lately. It's easy to knock him when he's down. Like Dave Chappelle once said, "He made Thriller....THRILLER!!!" How can anybody just forget about that??? J/K

Anyway, I think another reason why I'm defending him is because looking at the evidence, there wasn't enough to convince him. It boiled down to a he said, he said fight, and the boy in question had too many holes in his testimony to erase reasonable doubt from ANY juror. You really can't look at MJ's past; you have to look at the evidence and testimony for this particular case and decide whether he was guilty or not. I can see how any jury can have doubts about his guilt based on the testimony, witnesseses, and lack of physical evidence.

Finally, I think a lot of reason why I and a lot of black people stand behind Mike is because of the vast history of Blacks who have been accused of crimes that they HAVEN'T DONE until it becomes second nature to be defensive and we really have to be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt of any guilt. I happen to think that Kobe and R. Kelly are probably guilty of the crimes they've been accused of but that's just me (I wasn't there). As for MJ...who knows but I wouldn't be surprised if he actually did it.

Finally, I think if someone is well-loved as Michael, it's the tendency for ALL people to assume their innocence, to give them the benefit of the doubt. All I know is there better not be another damn kid in his future...or his bedroom . Just my honest opinion, that's all.

[luvleeone]

Yeah I'm black myself and a ot of black people don't care for Michael because of the skin lightening/disorder issue.

I just think that this case was BS... the evidence was not there.
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[redeye1021]

I followed the case on internet news sites on and off during the course of the case. There are a lot of interesting points that have already been covered, but I'll add a few that haven't been touched on.

I guess the biggest one is probably that an abuse charge is probably one of the hardest cases to prosecute. It's not like a murder where there's a dead body, or burglary where there's stolen property involved, or arson where something's been burned. There is no trail of physical evidence, and it's entirely based on eyewitness accounts, medical experts, and motive.

Having said that, looking at what the prosecutor had, with regards to evidence as per an abuse case, they felt they had a fairly strong case.

Now looking at the flip side of the coin, you have someone very famous accused, who has the means to garner an excellent defense lawyer just on recognizance alone (as a lawyer, even if you didn't get paid monetarily, the media exposure for defending said famous peron would pay for itself.)

The case became a very high-profile "he said, she said" (to coin a phrase), and was pretty much a struggle for the prosecution from the very beginning. California, star power, and a celebrity defendant - the defense had a somewhat easier job right off the bat, as it was their case to lose.

The whole case makes me very sick. I feel very sad for the boy involved. I think the defendant got off on technicalities and is one sick, deficient, messed up individual. Even if the boy had won in his case, this is still something he will have to live with for the rest of his life.