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troyholc Rank: Rookie

Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 73
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:07 pm Post subject: A New Serious Question |
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Alley,
It's been a while since I asked a serious question, so with events of the past week, i came up with a couple.
1. I am not Catholic. I'm more of following my own views on the teachings of Jesus. I know you have replied to a post before and said something similar ("I still believe in God and I believe in Jesus too....but don't want to be labeled as any part of religion." - February 3rd). Even though I am not Catholic, I find Pope John Paul II to have been a facinating and great man. I do have problems with several of his stances on faith, but what he did for the world during the cold war is extrodinary. I was just wondering what your feelings of him are if you have any? (BTW - I don't know how true it is, but I was told by a history teacher once if you ever want to know what ancient Rome was like watch a coronation of the pope. Just in case you're interested in history.)
2. A less serious question: prior to having your man, were promiscuous when you were single? Not that I could believe you would ever have a hard time finding a man or sex.
As always, if anything is to private just say you would rather not answer. You have been more open and willing to answer questions than I ever thought. I really appreciate it.
Sincerely,
troyholc
P.S. Just remembered an additional question that has probably been answered before, but if you could answer it or direct me to your answer it would be appreciated: what is your opinion on Public Displays of Affection? I have no problem with a little kiss, hugging, holding hands, etc. I just don't feel "sucking face" is necessary. I feel if you have to go to that extreme, you're making up for a lack somewhere else.
And for any guy who answers, although it would be difficult, I would be the same with Alley if she were mine. Believe me or not, it doesn't matter to me. _________________ ... having an idea is better. It's easier to change ideas. Changing a belief is a lot trickier. - 13th Apostle, "Dogma" |
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mt Rank: Veteran

Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 989
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Here's your dilemma. If you saw Alley with her man doing the tongue dance, ripping each other's clothes off, getting ready to do the "NASTY" in public, are you gonna:
a. turn away in disgust.
b.call the cops.
c. get that mantool out, get it cocked and ready to fire.
I think Alley knows my answer on this one.  _________________ In a perfect world, you get all Alley, all the time. |
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AlleyBaggett Official Model

Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Posts: 2358
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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MT, you are hysterical!
Troyholc,
I feel the same way you do about the Pope. I feel he was an amazing loving person who was an extradinary role model. I don't know much about Roman Catholicism so I can't say much else.
It's amazing how many people showed up at his viewing...to pay their respect. I believe 2 million people were there! WOW!
The answer to your question #2: I've always been in long commited relationships...so I was never one to sleep around much in my past.
Your PS question: I think public displays of affection is good. I personally don't think it's appropriate to swallow tongues in public. I think it's kind of weird seeing that out somewhere.....but I think it's okay If I do it. No, my man wouldn't do that anyway.... he's too shy.  _________________ xoxoxo
ALLEY!
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someoneoutthere Rank: Super Veteran

Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 1564
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Just a comment on Pope. There were actually 4 million pelgrims in Rome, of which 2 million Polish people.
I am not a religious man. The only thing I want to say is that the Pope's thoughts of how to live life can be seen in 2 different ways (as everything else). He might have done good things for our world, but he also did some bad. Just think of the fact that he was against safe sex, meaning no condom use. This resulted in a lot of grief for many people, be it unwanted pregnancy for young girls, to being infected with the HIV virus, resulting in a certain death.
In this day and age, falling back on old believes and customs, can be a dangerous thing to do. _________________ To die for... |
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mt Rank: Veteran

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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:48 am Post subject: |
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someoneoutthere wrote: | Just a comment on Pope. There were actually 4 million pelgrims in Rome, of which 2 million Polish people.
I am not a religious man. The only thing I want to say is that the Pope's thoughts of how to live life can be seen in 2 different ways (as everything else). He might have done good things for our world, but he also did some bad. Just think of the fact that he was against safe sex, meaning no condom use. This resulted in a lot of grief for many people, be it unwanted pregnancy for young girls, to being infected with the HIV virus, resulting in a certain death.
In this day and age, falling back on old believes and customs, can be a dangerous thing to do. |
I agree with you on these issues. But, overall, he was a true and just man. He truly wanted justice and equality among men, and he worked to achieve that goal. Without hesitation, I'll take him over the current Congress we have here in the U.S.(what a bunch of self-serving hippocrates).
Alley for Congress!! _________________ In a perfect world, you get all Alley, all the time.
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troyholc Rank: Rookie

Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 73
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:15 am Post subject: Thanks Alley |
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Alley: Thanks for your reply. It's always interesting to hear your thoughts.
someoneoutthere: Although I agree with your statement about him being against safe sex and that being a bad thing, but that was his job. He was to interpret the Bible the way he saw it and make catholic law on these interpretations. The problem comes in the people. If you disagree with it, you don't become/remain a member of the Catholic church (as I am not part of any organized Christian religion anymore because of my disagreements with how they interpret the bible). Now, yes, young girls would have a hard time because they are under the control of their parents. For them I do feel bad. That's where the problem of the pope never having any children comes in - he never had to deal with it. I think overall though, his good deeds far outway any bad he did.
mt: I totally agree about congress - Republicans, supposedly Christian (people who are to give as much as they can of themselves to help the poor), are greedy, selfish pigs hogging all the wealth (real Christian, huh?). The Democrats - feel more money needs to be given to government to help education, the poor, social security, etc. while people like Ted Kennedy have more money than they know what to do with and give $14 billion dollars+ to a road project in Boston that no one wanted and that is more than double the initial budget. And to top it off, the roads no good because of a leak in the tunnel where it goes under water (all according to ABC News). So, I definitely agree, Alley for Congress. Then, Alley, I can run in my state and we can hang out in congress!
troyholc _________________ ... having an idea is better. It's easier to change ideas. Changing a belief is a lot trickier. - 13th Apostle, "Dogma" |
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Supermark Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 155
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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someoneoutthere wrote: | ... he also did some bad. Just think of the fact that he was against safe sex, meaning no condom use. This resulted in a lot of grief for many people, be it unwanted pregnancy for young girls, to being infected with the HIV virus, resulting in a certain death. |
This isn't quite fair. You've got to remember one thing about this. The Church is against all sex outside of marriage and considers the real sin to be the sex part, not the condom part. So if someone is choosing to go against the Church's stance on sex, I have a hard time believing they would care at all about their stance on condom use. So it is not fair to blame the pope for unwanted pregnancies and HIV spread.
One more thing, the pope didn't make these rules, he just enforced and reaffirmed them. That's what a pope is supposed to do after all - enforce and reaffirm the beliefs of the Church. Yes, he did had the power to change rules if he felt that that is what God would want. But come on, the things we're talking about here are things we want, right??? I think it was actually quite courageous for him not to bend to the pressure of the public and the media on hotbed issues like this. |
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someoneoutthere Rank: Super Veteran

Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 1564
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmmm. Like I said. The believes are outdated, not from this day and age anymore. If the world around us changes, so you have to change too. Sticking to an old book (with due respect), with old believes, isn't quite the way you should look at the world right now. This is just my opinion. Like I said, I am not a religious man, I do have a religious background though.
I don't know how many humans have the Catholic faith. But someone in that position, the pope, should take into account that what he says, they will follow. He could have chosen another path, but what I have heard these days is that he was a very conservative man, and dictated the bible to the letter. _________________ To die for... |
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dally Rank: Junior Member
Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Posts: 141
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Im not a religious person,by that I mean I dont go to church or adhere completely to any specific line of belief. I have a christian background but I feel free to scrutinise and adopt any beliefs of people with different backgrounds to mine , if those beliefs feel right or make sense to me.
Saying that I will always appreciate and respect my christian background.I credit it for my very existence, if some rules werent set in place and followed all those years ago I believe there's a good chance that I wouldnt even be here today. I watched the Pope's funeral and paid my respects, I think what he symbolises does a lot more good than harm.
Someoneoutthere is correct in saying that some of the christian rules dont apply to modern day living. Its impracticle today to be married at 16. But who do you blame ? The Pope and his religion or the structure of modern day society? |
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Danielle Désirée Rank: Rookie

Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 53
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I guess this man sincerely did everything he could do for his church, following his believes.
I don´t think I have to discuss his good and bad sides because he was just a human being. Of course he has been very important for the world history. And I also see the problem with HIV, condoms and so on.
But - as already been said by someone else - he couldn´t do anything else. Following the Bible in the strict Catholic way actually allows no other options... |
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pinaylover Rank: Total Noob
Joined: 11 Mar 2005 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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I believe that the pope was truly a man of God. Even though my beliefs are more in line with Protestant Christianity, I truly appretiate the life and the benevolant nature of that man.
One of the coolest things that John Paul II did was to build bridges between Protestants and Catholics. He also apologized to the Jews for the horrors done to them in WWII. In fact he went to the Wailing Wall and left a message there. This was particularly close to home for him because he was a Polish person under Nazi occupied Poland.
Pope John Paul II was a man about living a Godly life and doing the best he could to bring about healing and reconcillation to the people that the Catholic church had hurt and abused in the past.
The next pope will have some pretty big shoes to fill. Pope John Paul II was a man of honesty, sincerity, integrity, love for children, and authentic in his beliefs and in the manner in which he lived his life.
Even though I may disagree with many of the tenants of Catholicism, I love Catholics dearly. They are some of the coolest people that we can ever meet. They are in the same spiritual family as Protestants, and I will live with them forever on the flip side! _________________ God is love!! |
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Danielle Désirée Rank: Rookie

Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 53
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:43 am Post subject: |
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Well, let´s just hope, that the elections will bring another good man to the world. This German candidate is very...let´s say, discussable? He´s not that popular over here in Germany...
Let´s see and wait what happens.
One thing is for sure (in my opinion): These happenings in Rome prooved, that the church is much more powerful than many people would have thought, still! |
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someoneoutthere Rank: Super Veteran

Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 1564
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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.... black smoke today. No new Pope yet. They predict it will take 3 days or so.
I heard the German cardinal is extremely conservative, like John Paul II. There is a good change that the new Pope will be from South America they say...
Time will tell... _________________ To die for... |
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